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Fighting the Insane

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posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 09:23 AM
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story.news.yahoo.com.../041209/ids_photos_wl/r4285872737.jpg

This is an "award" winning picture of an Iranian protesting Dutch authorities. His eyes and lips are sown shut? Is this insanity genertic? Are all those in or from the middle east brain damaged?




posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 09:25 AM
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Is that a serious question?

I hope not.

Edit to say: SOrry for the short post, but I cannot believe that one mans actions could even nearly mean that all Middle Eastern people are like that.

[edit on 10-12-2004 by Kriz_4]



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 09:38 AM
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- I'm against protesting, but I don't know how to show it. -

Anyway, how can self mutilation solve anything? Sewing ones mouth obviously renders one unable to speak. Therefore they can't speak out about the injustices that they are protesting!

It seems to defeat the purpose. But it worked for Ghandi. So hey, more power to him.



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by Simulacra
- I'm against protesting, but I don't know how to show it. -



ahhh... I see that you too have heard of ... Mitch Hedberg, comedian ?




posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid

This is an "award" winning picture of an Iranian protesting Dutch authorities. His eyes and lips are sown shut? Is this insanity genertic? Are all those in or from the middle east brain damaged?


Wow another pathetic generalization! this is fun! oh oh let me do one!

Americans shoot each other in domestic situations more than most other countries in the world, this must mean that every single American is gun nut freak that wants to shoot and kill everyone for no reason! and it must be genetic!


[/sarcasim]



[edit on 10-12-2004 by Johnny Redburn]



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 01:12 PM
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As a photo, it's mesmerizeing yet repulsive at the same time.
Makes me wonder about what the man in the picture is "saying"
with his sewn shut lips.



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by elevatedone

Originally posted by Simulacra
- I'm against protesting, but I don't know how to show it. -


ahhh... I see that you too have heard of ... Mitch Hedberg, comedian ?



That dude is hilarious!
I love his abstract humor.



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
Is this insanity genertic? Are all those in or from the middle east brain damaged?

I'm not sure which is worse: some guy sewing his mouth shut, or someone posting a bigoted comment like this on ATS.

I'm thinking maybe the wrong guy sewed his mouth shut.

Please at least try to Deny Ignorance.



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Majic

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Is this insanity genertic? Are all those in or from the middle east brain damaged?

I'm not sure which is worse: some guy sewing his mouth shut, or someone posting a bigoted comment like this on ATS.

I'm thinking maybe the wrong guy sewed his mouth shut.

Please at least try to Deny Ignorance.




It is pretty arrogant to acuse someone of being bigoted based upon 2 questions. To "deny Ignorance" then provide the answers. It can't be that difficult.



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
It is pretty arrogant to acuse someone of being bigoted based upon 2 questions. To "deny Ignorance" then provide the answers. It can't be that difficult.

So if I were to say "Is DrHoracid brain damaged?", that's okay with you?

How about "Is DrHoracid's family brain damaged?", or perhaps "Is everyone in or from DrHoracid's country brain damaged?"

This is okay, then? No problem with it? I have your permission to ask questions along these lines in other posts?

If so, I misunderstood you, but I don't think I can reasonably be blamed for that.

I didn't mean to come across as arrogant, I was just responding to how your post read according to my understanding of the language.


Edit: Lest I be misrepresented, I consider your comment to have been bigoted, as I stated above. I don't know you. Whether you are bigoted or not is unlikely to be determinable based on a single comment, but you are free to resolve the question by your general conduct. That's up to you, not me.


[edit on 12/10/2004 by Majic]



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by elaine
As a photo, it's mesmerizeing yet repulsive at the same time.
Makes me wonder about what the man in the picture is "saying"
with his sewn shut lips.




I think hes trying to say/show "my issue is unseen and unheard" "i have no voice against injustice/I am unheard"



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by instar

Originally posted by elaine
As a photo, it's mesmerizeing yet repulsive at the same time.
Makes me wonder about what the man in the picture is "saying"
with his sewn shut lips.




I think hes trying to say/show "my issue is unseen and unheard" "i have no voice against injustice/I am unheard"


Yes Instar I think so too. It's a photo that obviously causes emotion
in those who look at it.
Those who might be only be looking on the surface only see how this man
has mutilated his own body. There are others who look a little deeper
and can see the symbolism of this photo.

[edit on 10-12-2004 by elaine]



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 11:19 PM
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This type of protest is common.... happens quite often in Australia with Asylum Seekers. Most are Middle-Eastern so it might have some type of powerful cultural/ historical meaning.

There are many types of protest that perhaps are "self-destructive", protestors lighting themselves on fire comes first to mind... hunger strikes, even suicide can sometimes be a form of protest.




A Georgia man fatally shot himself at Ground Zero, and friends believe the tragic suicide was a political protest against President Bush's reelection and the war in Iraq.

www.nydailynews.com...



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid



story.news.yahoo.com.../041209/ids_photos_wl/r4285872737.jpg

This is an "award" winning picture of an Iranian protesting Dutch authorities. His eyes and lips are sown shut? Is this insanity genertic? Are all those in or from the middle east brain damaged?



People have been banned for less on this forum. I guess the resident nutjobs are allowed exception to the rules. Good, shows the mentality of some of these people.



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 11:37 PM
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I see the holier than thou liberals can't take any generalization with a grain of salt to see the truth contained therein, as if this is the only evidence of bigotry on ATS. It's only fair to be a bigot if you hate Americans, Christians, males, whites, Western Civilization, people over thirty, or morality.

[edit on 04/12/11 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I see the holier than thou liberals can't take any generalization with a grain of salt to see the truth contained therein, as if this is the only evidence of bigotry on ATS. It's only fair to be a bigot if you hate Americans, Christians, males, whites, Western Civilization, or people over thirty or morality.


I don't see a problem with this line of reasoning. Arabs are just tanned white person. So what if they kill each other? It's just life.

I don't care either, just as long as they keep it in the sand box.

[edit on 10-12-2004 by Justanotherperson]



posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by Justanotherperson

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I see the holier than thou liberals can't take any generalization with a grain of salt to see the truth contained therein, as if this is the only evidence of bigotry on ATS. It's only fair to be a bigot if you hate Americans, Christians, males, whites, Western Civilization, or people over thirty or morality.


I don't see a problem with this line of reasoning. Arabs are just tanned white person. So what if they kill each other? It's just life.


And protest, whatever form it takes is part of war. Just as killing is.
The photos I've seen on ATS of the dead bodies in Iraq are far worse
than this photo.



posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 01:03 AM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I see the holier than thou liberals can't take any generalization with a grain of salt to see the truth contained therein, as if this is the only evidence of bigotry on ATS.

I can't speak on their behalf, but when I see examples such as the one beginning this thread, I reserve the right to point it out. If pointing out bigotry bothers you, I hope to see you bothered often.


Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
It's only fair to be a bigot if you hate Americans, Christians, males, whites, Western Civilization, people over thirty, or morality.

We apparently disagree on that. Bigotry is bigotry, and it goes hand in hand with ignorance.



posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 01:52 AM
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That does look pretty crazy. How does that guy supposed to eat anyway?



posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by Croat56
That does look pretty crazy. How does that guy supposed to eat anyway?


He doesnt, i'm guessing he is on a hunger strike too.

I'm not sure why this kind of anti arab biggotry isnt stopped on this forum by the mods, every second topic is full of ignorence and is usually (not always mind you) started by an overly patriotic american. Its a conspiracy I tell you! A conspiracy within a conspiracy forum...*dramatic music*.



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