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originally posted by: grandmakdw
originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: grandmakdw
I'm not sure what you mean by "hedonistic orgy that Christmas has become". Christmas is not associated with orgies in the modern world, but only with giving presents and unity; and even if Christmas is not his actual birthday, it's dedicated to his (unknown) birthday. No one knows the actual day.
Orgy's do not have to be sexual. It is overindulgence.
Too much partying
Too much meaningless gift giving (how many people are on your list, you don't like, but "have" to get a gift for)
Selfishness - people who complain about the gifts they were given, and long return lines after Christmas
Entitlement - giving a list to people of what to buy for you and complaining if you don't get the most expensive ones
Decorations that are gaudy and have no meaning other than to attract attention
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: grandmakdw
Such is the world of today... its not just Christmas
Its just sad when your average Christian believes it has to do with Christ so dearly that they get insulting when someone states otherwise...
Just shows what most Christians actually know about their own religion... or their so called god in the flesh
originally posted by: DumpMaster
I've been celebrating Christmas my entire life, I'm 33. Who is this Jesus guy you are talking about?
Christmas is a time of year to be with friends and family, and have happy fun times, with presents from Santa. I don't see what it has to do with religion whatsoever.
originally posted by: WildCatWilly
I've never seen the word 'orgy' used so many times in one article! Lol- almost made me feel dirty...
I think we should de-Christianize Christmas and start calling it Giftsmas. No more baby Jesus... just let the holiday be about what it is really all about: an orgy of presents, feasting and partying.
originally posted by: Opportunity
Even the Scriptures say - One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. NIV Rom. 14:5
I'm not going to worry about what days anyone else on this planet holds sacred. The only ones that matter are the ones YOU hold sacred or important in your own mind, attuned to whatever you consider your reason for getting up every day. Big deal. So what if Christians or Chipmunks want to celebrate some day to Jesus. Why do you care? Be concerned with your own special days. It's far less stressful and probably far more productive.
originally posted by: Bonesmuggle
Actually the reason Jesus is said to be born on dec 25 is due to the fact that his entire life through the the bible covers all zodiac signs. The man with pitcher of water is Aquarius, judas is Scorpio, etc. davinchi's last super also clearly shows this fact. Jesus is the sun which enters the constellation the crux(cross) on dec 21 and rises three days later. I agree with the materialistic ridiculousness of Christmas but this is the truth.