I am anti-marriage!

Why do I say this? Because in today's day and age it is almost considered a business contract, not a bond of love. And worst of all, Governments around the world are taking advantage of that.

Here in the US, and elsewhere, the term "Marriage" also brings in certain benefits, such as health-care, wealth-sharing, (Either through Wills or Divorce), the death tax, etc, etc.

In some States here in the US, you don't even have to married to be penalized because the bond has grown distant. You can still have your assets seized and given to your former partner. (Look up common law marriage)

Who made marriage such a big issue? The answer is obvious.

Lawyers.

Who runs the majority of the US and elsewhere Governments? Again, the answer is obvious.

Lawyers.

I believe that you can blame the majority of the worlds problems on that one class of people.

But I do believe that marriage between those who love one another should be honored, and as such, the two people hold no financial bond to each other, but rather love. Though I have a feeling that most people out in California, particularly Hollyweird would be classified as single if that were the case.

a reply to: TDawgRex



Agreed! Two people in love and wanting to *hopefully* spend the rest of their lives together, should not need the government nor anyone else's permission/approval!

Mating is a natural human instinct! So why spend so much money to begin one OR end one?

As with almost everything else today, it seems to beg for MORE government intervention/control, and of course we can't forget about following the money!

Everybody hates lawyers.......until they need a good one.


But yeah, marriage is a legal contract. That's why you need a judge to divorce you.

Married 20 years last Tuesday just for reference.

I agree. I hesitantly married my ex after five years and ten years after that, she chose money over family and we parted nastily, she is a union rep so she had all free legal access, I didn't even have a job as we had just moved nine months before and was staying at home with the kids. I ended up homeless for a while because i couldnt afford a lawyer, i havent seen my kids for a year and a half. But that is going to change soon. Divorce will be final as of midnight new years eve/day.

My current gf of almost two years and I have already told everyone we're not legally getting married and we live in a state without common law. We both did that once, no need to do it again.

We both plan on encouraging our respective children to live with their chosen partner before entering into a legal contract with them.

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
Everybody hates lawyers.......until they need a good one.

But yeah, marriage is a legal contract. That's why you need a judge to divorce you.

Married 20 years last Tuesday just for reference.

And you still don't need a lawyer. Good for you and your spouse!



These are stories that I like!

a reply to: TDawgRex

I would like to take a large stick and spend my remaining days hitting lawyers over the head until they go away to somewhere else.

And those air horns.

Any time I see a lawyer talking, I would take one of those air horns and blast them.

Then I would say, "Be quiet. You are a lawyer."

Then I would put down the air horn, and pick my stick back up and continue hitting them over the head until they went away.

a reply to: TDawgRex

20 happy years!
19 for me and 1 for her! Lol
Just kidding. .

The thing is the idea of "marriage for love" is relatively recent in the greater scheme of things. It wasn't long ago that you personally were not even involved in the decision. Your parents and senior relatives made the decision for you based on the needs of the extended family. I needn't go into the details here; reminding you ought to be enough. That anyone would marry "for love" was considered rather silly and beside the point.

Bottom line is that if you don't "believe" in marriage or find the contractual obligations that come with it too appalling, then don't get married.

Simple enough.

My favorite line from the old Peter Pan movie. All the Lost Boys scream "Kill the Grownup", then Peter retorts, "Hey, I'm a lawyer" and they all scream back "Kill the Lawyer"

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: TDawgRex

I would like to take a large stick and spend my remaining days hitting lawyers over the head until they go away to somewhere else.

And those air horns.

Any time I see a lawyer talking, I would take one of those air horns and blast them.

Then I would say, "Be quiet. You are a lawyer."

Then I would put down the air horn, and pick my stick back up and continue hitting them over the head until they went away.

Now we're talking!!!

I heckled and hazed my ex's lawyer for two years. I would return his requests for me to walk away with nothing by requesting a letter with a self-addressed envelope and reply in crayons that they couldn't pressure me.
At every meeting I called him "Slim Fast" or "Nutrisystem" because he dropped about sixty pounds. He didn't care for that and would try to get a sheriff's deputy in the room. The person overseeing the meeting would roll their eyes.
Finally on the day before he could file, I lawyered up and they had to back down. It was a Friday. He didn't even know until Monday when he went to the prothonotory with a smile and papers in hand. I actually get alimony (even though I live with my girlfriend) and enough to get back on my feet.

a reply to: schuyler

I'm a history buff and realize all that. Hell, there are still pre-arranged marriages in the world.

But I still think it should be for love, rather than a contract.

"Romeo and Juliet" was a play about a contract that both refused to honor because of love.

Same with "West Side Story." (A modern take on Romeo and Juliet.)

a reply to: the owlbear

How is it said?

99% of the lawyers make the 1% look bad? Something like that anyways.

originally posted by: TDawgRex
a reply to: the owlbear

How is it said?

99% of the lawyers make the 1% look bad? Something like that anyways.

I even have three great friends who became lawyers. One quit because he hated how smarmy it was. The other two I wouldn't trust with my money or property, but outside of their job, they are good people.

Q: What do you call a smiling, courteous person at a bar association convention?
A: The caterer.

Q: What's the difference between a female lawyer and a pitbull?
A: Lipstick.

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?
A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50
A: Senator.

Q: What's the difference between an accountant and a lawyer?
A: Accountants know they're boring.

Q: What's the one thing that never works when it's fixed?
A: A jury.

Q: Why did God invent lawyers?
A: So that real estate agents would have someone to look down on.

Q: What's the difference between a vacuum cleaner and a lawyer on a motorcycle?
A: The vacuum cleaner has the dirt bag on the inside.

Q: What' the difference between a lawyer and a boxing referee?
A: A boxing referee doesn't get paid more for a longer fight.

Q: What's the difference between a good lawyer and a bad lawyer?
A: A bad lawyer makes your case drag on for years. A good lawyer makes it last even longer.

Q: What's the difference between a jellyfish and a lawyer?
A: One's a spineless, poisonous blob. The other is a form of sea life.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a trampoline?
A: You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a leech?
A: After you die, a leech stops sucking your blood.


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and God?
A: God doesn't think he's a lawyer.

Q: How are an apple and a lawyer alike?
A: They both look good hanging from a tree.


Q: How can a pregnant woman tell that she's carrying a future lawyer?
A: She has an uncontrollable craving for bologna.


Q: How does an attorney sleep?
A: First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other.


Q: How many lawyer jokes are there?
A: Only three. The rest are true stories.


Q: How many lawyers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Three, One to climb the ladder. One to shake it. And one to sue the ladder company.


Q: What are lawyers good for?
A: They make used car salesmen look good.


Q: What do dinosaurs and decent lawyers have in common?
A: They're both extinct.


Q: What do you call 25 attorneys buried up to their chins in cement?
A: Not enough cement.


Q: What do you call 25 skydiving lawyers?
A: Skeet.


Q: What do you call a lawyer gone bad.
A: Senator.


Q: What do you throw to a drowning lawyer?
A: His partners.


Q: What does a lawyer get when you give him Viagra?
A: Taller


Q: What's brown and looks really good on a lawyer?
A: A Doberman.


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a liar?
A: The pronunciation.


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute?
A: A prostitute will stop screwing you when you're dead.


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a vulture?
A: The lawyer gets frequent flyer miles.


Q: What's the difference between a mosquito and a lawyer?
A: One is a blood-sucking parasite, the other is an insect.


Q: Why did God make snakes just before lawyers?
A: To practice.


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a herd of buffalo?
A: The lawyer charges more.


Q: What's the difference between a tick and a lawyer?
A: The tick falls off when you are dead.


Q: What do you get when you cross a blonde and a lawyer?
A: I don't know. There are some things even a blonde won't do.


Q: Know how copper wire was invented?
A: Two lawyers were fighting over a penny.


Q: Why does the law society prohibit sex between lawyers and their clients?
A: To prevent clients from being billed twice for essentially the same service.


Q: What can a goose do, a duck can't, and a lawyer should?
A: Stick his bill up his ass.


Q: How can you tell when a lawyer is lying?
A: Their lips are moving.


Q: Why did New Jersey get all the toxic waste and California all the lawyers?
A: New Jersey got to pick first.


Q: Why don't lawyers go to the beach?
A: Cats keep trying to bury them.


Q: What do you call 5000 dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A: A good start!


Q: What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead lawyer in the road?
A: There are skid marks in front of the skunk.


Q: Why won't sharks attack lawyers?
A: Professional courtesy.


Q: What do have when a lawyer is buried up to his neck in sand?
A: Not enough sand.


Q: How do you get a lawyer out of a tree?
A: Cut the rope.


Q: Do you know how to save a drowning lawyer?
A: Take your foot off his head.


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a bucket of manure?
A: The bucket.


Q: What is the definition of a shame (as in "that's a shame")?
A: When a busload of lawyers goes off a cliff.

Q: What is the definition of a "crying shame"?
A: There was an empty seat.


Q: What do you get when you cross the Godfather with a lawyer?
A: An offer you can't understand


Q: Why is it that many lawyers have broken noses?
A: From chasing parked ambulances.


Q: Where can you find a good lawyer?
A: In the cemetery


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a gigolo?
A: A gigolo only screws one person at a time.


Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a vampire?
A: A vampire only sucks blood at night.


Q: Why to lawyers wear neckties?
A: To keep the foreskin from crawling up their chins.


Q: What is the difference between a lawyer and a rooster?
A: When a rooster wakes up in the morning, its primal urge is to cluck defiance.


Q: How many law professors does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Hell, you need 250 just to lobby for the research grant.


Q: If you see a lawyer on a bicycle, why don't you swerve to hit him?
A: It might be your bicycle.


Q: What do you call a smiling, sober, courteous person at a bar association convention?
A: The caterer.


Q: Why do they bury lawyers under 20 feet of dirt?
A: Because deep down, they're really good people.


Q: Why are lawyers like nuclear weapons?
A: If one side has one, the other side has to get one. Once launched, they cannot be recalled. When they land, they screw up everything forever.


Q: What do lawyers and sperm have in common?
A: One in 3,000,000 has a chance of becoming a human being.



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a reply to: beezzer

Priceless!

And I bet if I click the link there are more.

Does anyone get the idea after all these years...I really dislike lawyers?

a reply to: TDawgRex

I've been truly happily married for 26 years.

I support your stance of 'anti-marriage' IF you are also against making children. See, I've had occasion to see several children grow up disadvantaged and their brave and diligent mothers working their tails off just to try and keep them both fed. This is NOT a smear against single parents; God help them and I will also as I can and I respect someone to my core who suspends their own dreams to take responsibility for a child. I'm talking about sperm donors who play and leave, not taking responsibility for the life they've helped to create.

So there you have it. In a perfect world, all children would be chosen and wanted. In a less perfect world (but one still superior to that of our reality), men who were perhaps less than responsible in the act that created a child, would be more responsible with the raising and nurturing of them.

I'm a conservative. I am also pro-choice. Sometimes those tools are not available and/or familial systems don't support abortion.

So......... don't get married. It's not for everyone. Four of our best friends in the world have been together longer than m'Bride and me have been married, and they're fulfilled. It's a choice and one that shouldn't be judged either way.

But.......... be careful. Responsible.

I agree it's not right for some folks but for me and the gal I call the Mr's, we are actually getting married on the 19th of December. We been friends for 28 years but only been living together for the past 10. At this point we figure we're lucky cus we know no one else could put up with either of us LOL.

a reply to: TDawgRex

Every day Angel and I balance the urges to love one another with the urges to leave one another forever. Every day the urge to love and remain together prevails and has done so since we were 16 years old. We have spent some time apart, long months in fact, but after reviewing our options, facing loneliness and realizing just how terrible everyone else in this world is, we end up coming back together consistently.

Each of us is free to go our separate ways at any given moment. Each of us is free to sleep with whomever we please whenever we please. The simple fact of the matter is that she can't stand brainless jocks and I can't stand Jersey Shore drunks (god forbid I should ever produce any offspring with one of them accidentally), so we always end up just sleeping with each other.

It isn't a perfect system. It sucks knowing beyond a doubt that I'm not her ideal standard that satisfies her every desire, but I'm an imperfect human and she's an ambitious woman. How could I ever do such a thing? Maybe if I were a multibillionaire with six pack abs a 13 inch measuring stick with the soul of a poet and the mind of an engineer I could achieve that, but I am nowhere near that standard of excellence, although I suppose everything other than those 13 inches I could get closer towards if I tried hard enough.

I think this entire idea of empty headed love where two people are just blindly joined to one another forever is infantile anyway. Who as an adult honestly believes in the concept of perfect, unconditional love? Prince Charming is literally a work of fiction and being enamored by such a thing is the habit of little girls. Women grow to quickly realize that he is nothing other than a figment of their imaginations. Unfortunately, we live in a world full of girls and boys today, constantly seeking their soul mates in every bar and gutter all across this country, trying to emulate their teenage years in perpetuity.

The wake up call at 50 is going to be glorious!

a reply to: Nechash

The romantic in me still thinks it's possible to find a soul mate, or as I prefer it, Best Friend. Friends usually forgive transgressions, but lovers rarely do.

But I also realize that it's not a quest. If it happens, it happens. Whether marriage is involved or not.

a reply to: TDawgRex

Friendship is good. Above all else I think of her as my best friend, so I think that works well.