NASA Rocket redefines the meaning of GALAXY........

science.nasa.gov...

The galaxy as we know it may be far too small of a definition..........
The galaxies may be far larger and encompass more space than what we see up to now....


Observations from the Cosmic Infrared Background Experiment, or CIBER, are helping settle a debate on whether this background infrared light in the universe, previously detected by NASA’s Spitzer Space Telescope, comes from these streams of stripped stars too distant to be seen individually, or alternatively from the first galaxies to form in the universe.

Auroras Underfoot (signup)"We think stars are being scattered out into space during galaxy collisions," said Michael Zemcov, lead author of a new paper describing the results from the rocket project and an astronomer at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) and NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California. "While we have previously observed cases where stars are flung from galaxies in a tidal stream, our new measurement implies this process is widespread."

Nibiru where are you..........

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I'm not even going to pretend to be an expert in this subject, but its a fantastically interesting thought to consider regardless so thanks for posting. Anyone who thinks we know everything there is to know at this point in human history is simply making the same mistake those of previous generations who had similar thoughts made - and anyway, if and when the day comes we finally know everything, life will become very boring very quickly.

The premise seems to indicate there are many widely separated lone stars out in the big empty of intergalactic space.....
Could they be used as stopping off points or better still some place we could gain a n extra shot of energy in space travel between the galaxies.....

a reply to: stirling

That's a wild notion. Very cool. Would be an awesome place to just "get away from it all."

Of course this occures. Galaxies are constantly being reborn and destroyed.

Giant rings of plasma can be visable from novas that have exploded so its more than likely planets and stars will go flying through space.

The thing is, Space isn't exactly expanding in one direction. It's expanding in all directions, Things are flying around in one direction it's all over the place.

There never really was a first galaxy to begin with because everything that is here. Atoms/molecules and condensed mass particles have a delicate balence that has mantained *space* and *existance*. All mass relies on condensed energy.

Overtime particles lose energy stored within the sub-atomic particles of an atom. It's these single objects that make up the whole unit of the atom itself that cause Entropy to occure. Entropy is decay, We know it exists because it is highly dangerous to us. Radioactive waste is in such a state of decay.

Basically when you syphon out energy from the sub-atomic particles it makes them unstable. They fly break away and fly off in the nearest direction of attractive magnetic pull. It rapidly combines with atoms, syphoning energy it's sub atomic particles causing even more particles to become unstable. The chain continues until it loses attractive magnetic force to nearby matter and almost ceases to exist. The thing is the particle is already so tiny it is very difficult to see. It is constantly moving because the sub-atomic particles themselves like electrons protons and neutrons all spin themselves.
As they are themselves hollow technically. Electrons are all made up of Sub-electro particles that together make up an electron. Basically when an electron loses to much energy thes sub-electro particles will break apart into their fragments and spew into space.

Folded condensed matter is made of these substances as well as sub-protonic particles, Neutrons are made of sub-neutralized particles and all of these are bonded together by attractive and repulsive charges. The alignment of magnetic forces causes it to spin as the magnetic forces force the particles to chase an invisble tail so to speak it is the snake eating it's tail.

Matter only has energy because it was bound up at one point.
You see *activating forces* such as energy, Which is an activating force. Matter is energy but energy is only a fraction of matter.

What we see as energy is just the entropic output. It puts the electrical term *juice* to use. As all mass has limits on how much *Juice* it can produce.

Activating forces need to have a pre-requisit formula to be utilized and besides that. Activating forces require pre-requisit manufacturing. Energy DOES not come from nothing.

There really is no such thing as nothing.

Let me explain. You have 10 skittles, You place them in front of you. You begin eating one skittle at a time.
During this experience. You notice that the skittles are going missing one by one.

Let's compare this to decaying material. Because it is exactly the same concept. Now each skittle you eat is a decaying particle.

The more decaying particles you eat, less skittles can be seen on the table periodically.

You eat them all one by one till all 10 are gone. Now as a scientists, Theorizing on decaying particles one should take this example seriously. We can hypothetically say that to our expectations, The decaying particles or rather the skittles have eliminated themselves into oblivion. Now had our perception dictacted physics itself this statement would in fact be true.

The fact of the matter is the Skittles are i your tummy now. We may have applied an anology to them using radiation.
But that dosn't change the fact it had a destination. The same can be said for decaying matter. Just because it seems to cease to exist from our feild of view. Does not mean it is not scattered in a type of dematerialized cloud. In this case my stomach dematerializes it into basic elemental structures through the process of enzyme production.

In the case for expended radioactive dust. It is absorbed by black holes.

And rather there is far more mass to consume that is non visible to the naked eye than what is visible.

It is no mystery how black holes sustain themselves.

They don't sustain themselves on just stars and strey planets/asteroids/gas clouds. But rather all the decaying material eminating from the surrounding galatic center and beyond.

This causes a current or rather a tide. As this tide pulls us it is also spinning like a whirlpool. The lack of a liquid like substance like water allows us to orbit in a more stable fashion around it for longer periods of time before enivitablly being swallowed.

What happens in a black hole is magnetic force of sub-atomic particles lose their ability to connect to each other. As the pressures force the mass to rapidly compress in any direction weither north or south until it cannot condense anymore.

The flow of mass particles being generates in zero G cause the newly formed compressed mass to follow the currents stream out in literal jet streams.

The moving mass causes decaying particles that are being drawn towards the black hole to light up from the minor surges in energy. Well he mass is spewed into space.

When mass is compressed in such a state, it creates somewhat the same effects as plate techonics. The particles cannot budge. The rising forces of negative and positive being shoved right beside each other cause tension. As the tension rises. So does the output of energy being generated within the particles themselves. It's not until the breaking point that this snape launches highly charged particles into space. Where they form into gas clouds and then into stars... and finally into planets... Which on the grand scale form a galaxy. And we are just one of an infinite ammount of galaxies in space. All existing at different stages in time.

The compressed mass acts as a type of jelly. Which allows space to even exist. Without it. Objects would be so close to each other that without space. The universe would just be one infinitely solid object spanning in all directions. But Since mass has resistances and weaknesses. Such a thing like that can't exist. So it is compressed. This compression allows empty space to exist. But it is still technically not empty. Just in a ghost state persay. It's there you just can't interact with it without technology.

It's kind of impossible to judge the age of the universe because we have absolutely no idea when the first chain started.

Galaxies have generations too, And we don't know if the milkyway is a generation G galaxy or a generation Y galaxy. If the universe ever had a begining. We don't know where our galaxy or the galaxies around us fit into the chain.

Scientists are only guessing based on the estimated age of nearby galaxies. They don't even know what the generation of those galaxies they are studying are in the first place. Because as mentioned. it's impossible.


Just be happy that opposing forces create a stable universe that can and will and has been existing forever.

Aliens won't even have the answer because many aliens are from currently living in their home galaxies.
Where as the more ancient species would of had their galaxy die and be reborn many *lifetimes* ago.

a reply to: stirling

Nibiru where are you..........

Huh? What are you talking about?

The planet Nibiru (invented by Sitchin) is supposed to orbit the Sun. The Sun is well ensconced in the Milky Way.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: stirling

Nibiru where are you..........

Huh? What are you talking about?

The planet Nibiru (invented by Sitchin) is supposed to orbit the Sun. The Sun is well ensconced in the Milky Way.

Smart you may be....but poetry is missing from your soul even if you probably won't admit to having one......we love you anyways......

originally posted by: stirling

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: stirling

Nibiru where are you..........

Huh? What are you talking about?

The planet Nibiru (invented by Sitchin) is supposed to orbit the Sun. The Sun is well ensconced in the Milky Way.

Smart you may be....but poetry is missing from your soul even if you probably won't admit to having one......we love you anyways......

What does that statement have to do with anything he said or for that matter, "Nibiru?" In fact, what does this mission have to do with "Nibiru?" As far as I can tell, nothing at all.