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The open source revolution is coming and it will conquer the 1% - ex CIA spy

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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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Robert David Steele, former Marine, CIA case officer, and US co-founder of the US Marine Corps intelligence activity, is a man on a mission. But it's a mission that frightens the US intelligence establishment to its core. With 18 years experience working across the US intelligence community, followed by 20 more years in commercial intelligence and training, Steele's exemplary career has spanned almost all areas of both the clandestine world.


Apparently he has credentials.



"... concentrated illicitly aggregated and largely phantom wealth in favor of community wealth defined by community knowledge, community sharing of information, and community definition of truth derived in transparency and authenticity, the latter being the ultimate arbiter of shared wealth."


Let me guess.. He's coming for your wealth and he wants to promote socialist ideology right? Or is it that people are starting to recognize that we are actually all a community?



Yet he remains an outspoken critic of US intelligence practices and what he sees as their integral role in aggravating rather than ameliorating the world's greatest threats and challenges.


I will definately agree with him there as well.



"Properly educated people always appreciate holistic approaches to any challenge. This means that they understand both cause and effect, and intertwined complexities," he said. "A major part of our problem in the public policy arena is the decline in intelligence with integrity among key politicians and staff at the same time that think tanks and universities and non-governmental organisations have also suffered a similar intellectual diminishment.


Couldn't agree more, people are really dumb. I apologize to you if you consider yourself people.



So why isn't it happening yet? "Preconditions are not the same as precipitants. We are waiting for our Tunisian fruit seller. The public will endure great repression, especially when most media outlets and schools are actively aiding the repressive meme of 'you are helpless, this is the order of things.' When we have a scandal so powerful that it cannot be ignored by the average Briton or American, we will have a revolution that overturns the corrupt political systems in both countries, and perhaps puts many banks out of business. Vaclav Havel calls this 'The Power of the Powerless.' One spark, one massive fire."


So we're not alone in seeing the underpinnings of a revolution happening in the west. I hope he's right. I think to many people have had it to easy for to long. It's about time.

I think we need to start looking at each other as $$, and start respecting each other invidiual consciousness and our intrinsic connection to each other and nature.



But we need more than revolution, in the sense of overthrow, to effect change, surely. How does your manifesto for 'open source everything' fit into this? "The west has pursued an industrialisation path that allows for the privatisation of wealth from the commons, along with the criminalisation of commons rights of the public, as well as the externalisation of all true costs. Never mind that fracking produces earthquakes and poisons aquifers – corrupt politicians at local, state or province, and national levels are all too happy to take money for looking the other way. Our entire commercial, diplomatic, and informational systems are now cancerous. When trade treaties have secret sections – or are entirely secret – one can be certain the public is being screwed and the secrecy is an attempt to avoid accountability. Secrecy enables corruption. So also does an inattentive public enable corruption."


And here we have the crux of the issue! Kudos to you ex-CIA(ex? Does that exist)

Anyway what say you ATS? Is this guy the next stage of MKULTRA or is he the real deal?
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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:04 AM
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well yes, especially there at the end, I have to agree with you. Some of us have been here for years spouting such rhetoric, about individual consciousness, our uniqueness but intrinsic value to one another, and that connectedness when we feel secure in ourselves is a healthy endeavor, instead of a threat.

But that has nothing whatsoever to do with the CIA and its supposed goals…..
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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: tetra50

Yeah I agree with a lot of what the guy is saying but his "ex" affiliation with the CIA comes to mind.

Is anyone ever really ex CIA? Blood in blood out..



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: tetra50

Yeah I agree with a lot of what the guy is saying but his "ex" affiliation with the CIA comes to mind.

Is anyone ever really ex CIA? Blood in blood out..

excellent point you make there, and i think we all know the answer….especially if you're out there, a peddling your wares, so to speak. The only way it seems he could do that is to still be in their cadre…..



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: tetra50

It's also possible he's getting ready to sell a book and his advertising platform is to appeal to the younger audience and to the ideas of conspiracy theorist.

Seems like there's more of us then we think. If we could just set aside our egos and get together that would be great.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: tetra50

Yeah I agree with a lot of what the guy is saying but his "ex" affiliation with the CIA comes to mind.

Is anyone ever really ex CIA? Blood in blood out..


Does this question only include CIA™ or any 'Alpha Bet' agency? Some are more 'secret squirrel' than the latter...

"some" are.. especially those who get 'railroaded' and threatened with incarceration if they don't 'testilie' to further the charade.. They start out w/the best intentions (The road to Hell is paved with 'good intentions') and then when they call a 'spade' a 'shovel' they are 'nudged out' ... Try Sanibel island there are a bunch of My co-workers there... I meant to type there is a slew of spooks, a whole community there...

namaste



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: JimNasium

Yeah I have family that's a "spook". Seems like a lot of the intelligence is done by private companies working on contracts.

I don't know if that's done to keep the eyes off of what their doing or if they are giving contracts to evade scrutiny or what I don't know.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: tetra50

Yeah I agree with a lot of what the guy is saying but his "ex" affiliation with the CIA comes to mind.

Is anyone ever really ex CIA? Blood in blood out..


Good point. Though, he may be genuine, keep an eye on the info and what follows. After all are we kinda of not seeing this already, unless it's an illusion being built up by net 'shillery'. To say that at least people networking seem to be becoming more aware how corrupt things are-see the topics on this site!, while nothing new at all, people are starting to see that in the very least.

Funny how a major Bitcoin critic( Peter Schiff, CEO)who has influence in gold and markets kept saying BTC means nothing, but has since changed his stance at least a bit. Even PayPal Founder Peter Thiel, dislikes BTC, says it's the opposite of Paypal. See it's affecting those types, the bankers, etc. Though, by far, not enough.
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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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I think it's safe to say that he is no longer a friendly to the CIA:

From the article:


In 1992, despite opposition from the CIA, he obtained Marine Corps permission to organise a landmark international conference on open source intelligence – the paradigm of deriving information to support policy decisions not through secret activities, but from open public sources available to all. The conference was such a success it brought in over 620 attendees from the intelligence world.

But the CIA wasn't happy, and ensured that Steele was prohibited from running a second conference. The clash prompted him to resign from his position as second-ranking civilian in Marine Corps intelligence, and pursue the open source paradigm elsewhere. He went on to found and head up the Open Source Solutions Network Inc. and later the non-profit Earth Intelligence Network which runs the Public Intelligence Blog.


That said, Mr Steele has certainly done his research, and if he is correct, then we may not be far from a revolution at all.


Last month, Steele presented a startling paper at the Libtech conference in New York, sponsored by the Internet Society and Reclaim. Drawing on principles set out in his latest book, The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth and Trust, he told the audience that all the major preconditions for revolution – set out in his 1976 graduate thesis – were now present in the United States and Britain.


The assertions that this may be promotion for a book seem partially correct, considering his latest work is mentioned in the article. Nevertheless, he seems to know what he is talking about. He is well read on all things intelligence, and he has more authority to claim such things than many others. It will definitely be interesting to see if his predictions and assertions prove correct.

Thanks for posting this, Onequestion.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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Thanks for the info.

@dreamingawake -

Things like this gain momentum due to capitalism. From ratings to book sales to podcast sponsorship to advertising dollars to ATS... It all starts = $$$$. Once people see the $$$ in these philosophies they start changing their business model to fit it.

We are are on the fringes not of culture by on the revolution of culture itself.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: tetra50

It's also possible he's getting ready to sell a book and his advertising platform is to appeal to the younger audience and to the ideas of conspiracy theorist.

Seems like there's more of us then we think. If we could just set aside our egos and get together that would be great.


Yes, I'm busy loling at this part:


If we could just set aside our egos and get together that would be great.


Me and my ego are in total agreement with you. Though I am female, I refer to my ego as a male…lol.
He doesn't like to be set aside, either. I have to admit that in order to continue said discussion.
Seems like we are discussing antithetical things here, in this thread: the CIA, and the setting aside of egos. Again, gotta laugh at that.

Spooks have HUGE egos. lol.
anyway, about the selling books thing: If you are former intelligence, you couldn't do that w/o the company's blessing, it seems to me……and I seem to be repeating myself, there, as I've already stated such.
So, on trusting him, I don't know about all that. You can figure out the rest, as can everyone else, and it's not hard.
I'm sure Mr. Nasium would agree, as well, claiming the disgruntled former spook mantle himself, now. There's so many ex-spooks on this site it makes one go, hmmmm, sometimes.
Mr. Nasium: It seems like a whole lotta people got the same story as you…..i guess there's just that many conscientious objectors, which means there may still be hope for humanity, yet…..



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 09:59 AM
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LOL. If he wasn't friendly to the CIA, he wouldn't be allowed to publish the book.
That's a certainty. Two guys, suits, guns in holsters, show up at the publishing company, in an editor's office. That's all it takes. People cave. They are smart to if they like their jobs, wives, husbands, kids, etc. You get the picture. I've read your posts; you're a smart guy.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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Remember: A person never leaves the CIA, they either die or become "consultants".



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: tetra50

You raise some pertinent points.

I agree that the possibility definitely is there. While he resigned on harsh terms with the CIA, he would undoubtedly retain close relationships with all kinds of agents in the intelligence field. From low-level spooks to the big-wigs in all kinds of agencies.

While i'm not sure about his relationship with the CIA as a whole (it seems weak), i have no doubt that he could pull some strings here and there through close associates in the agency.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital

we are all familiar with the devil's advocate position, for the sake of it, and big bucks besides……
The world is a stage. The stagers are the CIA. That's their business. It's what they do in Guatamala, or Micronesia, for that matter, staging coos, however that should be spelled, and I have my doubts…about spelling and alphabets, in general, not to mention language…..

But, as we were saying….yes, I think I've made the point I intended to.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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Although in this incarnate I stand to pee, I'm trying My darnedest to embrace The Devine Feminine, this to off-set You(rs).. neat.

Anywho, that is why I asked are You specifically typing about 'The Company™' (pun intended) ? I knew some great guys from the BATF™ nee: ATF™ An accountant from the F.B.I., some other guys from the NSA™, AlphaBets can be tricky and/or post long threads, depending on how You view it...but for what it is worth: It is akin to, for instance, some folks' thinking that the Masons™ are behind a global takeover. Let us for argument sake, say this is true, the ones that aren't "In the know" wouldn't "know" hence the term, "in the know" leading to 'either You're 'in' or You're "out"... It would benefit the 'higher ups' (the ones benefitting) to have such an open door policy of "2B1Ask1" for enrollment and then get them to defend the Lodge...

Funny I just looked up to do a "preview" and saw Your bit about "Alphabets" synchronize mucho?

namaste



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

Did You see the thread where a contractor is looking for bodies to fight ISIS (foe de jour) for $500k ? I used to drink w/a driver of one of the big shots and He KNEW things that would make Your head spin, He now lives right down on the water.. He had more 'juice' than a whole bunch put together and if You don't have any "wood" You're not long for 'The Game'..

Like I typed above, this isn't the arena for specifics, that is why this "common passerby" doesn't specify, plus I'm not selling anything..

Hold Your hand about 4" in front of Your face, open palmed.. How many fingers do You count? Some will count 4 when 'others' will count 8.. Why?



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: JimNasium

I tried to decipher your post but gave up to type this.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 11:14 AM
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I tried to decipher your post but gave up to type this.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:18 PM
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because 4 inches in front of your face, if you relax your eyes, the object that is 4 inches away will appear in double vision? But if you "force" your perspective closer to your face, you will see 4 fingers, while things in the background will switch to "double vision".


I did not think the "fight ISIS for 500k/year" thing was real. What's the significance then, Casper the Spooky Ghost?
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