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Spaceship Filmed Firing Thrusters In Front Of Moon?

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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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His production values are very good. No creepy music or ads. Honestly his stuff is far more compelling than the average youtube poster. I don't know what to think but I won't dismiss him out of hand for his opinion. The dude films HD moon video all the time, that alone is worth the attention. His moon wave was backed up by other cameras by other operators in other countries. Not a hoaxer.




posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:04 PM
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Space junk/satellite orbiting earth reflecting sunlight.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: SovereignZuul

You mean the videos of atmospheric distortion? Those videos?



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:24 PM
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boeing dream chaser?

www.google.co.uk...



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: rockpaperhammock
a reply to: draknoir2

you know you got me interested in the guy with that statement so i watched several of his videos....I think the guy is highly talented...he puts out great videos...its just his wacky opinions that can be unsettling however that doesn't take away from the great videos. For example:

One video shows a balloon rising in the atmosphere and exploding...its just a cool as video...nothing that crazy about it...but he goes on to talk about it sprinkling stuff over a city. There is debris for sure which could be speculated on. I don't agree with his opinion on that video but the video is amazing!

It is the same with this...this video is great...the opinions and debates can go many ways. I personally believe its a ship or satellite doing a retrograde burn. That is not that far out there...ships and satellites do it all the time...but you have to admit the video is great and edited very well and he has claimed nothing that amazing...its a unidentified flying object...most likely ours.


That would be the "Chem Bomb" video. :-))

Problem is he's adding to the youtube pollution with his ridiculous claims which are subsequently re-posted ad nauseum as "evidence" of said claims.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: October
Your opinion made me chuckle at how shallow some people can be and are so knee jerk in their reaction responding on the forum.

I've chatted to Crow777 before and he isn't a "nutter" as you so eloquently put, his videos are the real deal and he has never claimed that he's filming aliens. If you took the time to do a little research and watch his stuff "All the way through....." I'm talking to you at the back, you'll see he is rather good at what he does.


a reply to: draknoir2



I never said he claimed to be filming aliens. I said he claimed that the moon was obscured by a hologram and that there are exploding "Chem Bombs" over populated cities. His opinions are the real deal and my opinion stands, as does yours, no doubt.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality




a reply to: Phage What do you think it is?


Lol Never A Straight Answer....


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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: DeadSeraph
a reply to: skyblueworld

Don't speak for the rest of us.

It might be a "UFO" in the sense that it is presently not identified, but there is nothing about the footage that leads one to believe it's an alien space craft.

I have to agree with Jim Oberg here, why is it so hard to find good time stamps with footage like this? We're supposed to believe the youtube channel that is looking for money? How about no.


He didnt say it was an alien space craft, he said it was a UFO. YOU are the one jumping to conclusions and putting words in his mouth.

Until it is identified, it is a UFO.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: signalfire
Hmmm, the return of the Chinese ship was Halloween night, this guy says his video was taken November 2, 2014 at 4:55 PM, but good point.......


Dang, why is it so HARD to get simple stuff like a referenceable time hack?



I'll say this as an amateur star gazer I wouldn't know what that means either.

Assuming this guy doesn't work for NASA or similar, just Joe Bloggs with a Camera and Telescope
I can't see why the ''referenceable Time Hack" would be the one thing you would pick up on?

Unless you are saying it's all CGI or similar, or are you saying it is the Chinese ship.

I really don't follow what you are trying to say.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 02:09 PM
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Considering the magnification and if this was in the Earth's atmosphere, close to it, or re-entering, wouldn't it zip by such as seeing the space station traverse the moon (as one user linked)? This event seems gradual and controlled. The slow speed seems it would indicate it is closer to the Moon than at least the space station.
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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Taggart

I think he is trying to say the guy removed the time stamp from the video. That usually indicates you are trying to be dishonest about when the event happened.

Again, he tracks this fast moving object IMMEDIATELY. So either he tracks objects via sites (VERY COMMON) and he was waiting for this, or he faked it. To be looking through a telescope at the exact time this happens to come by and then be able to track it immediately??? C'MON MAN!

If he does indeed record this HD footage on a regular basis and he wants hard evidence supporting him, why not have a time stamp on the video?



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: signalfire

Since a lot is totally unknown about this clip, I'll stick to a single aspect of the video. Given that the object moves so fast across the face of the Moon, we can assume that it is rather close to Earth and not near the Moon.

It is convenient to speculate that the three points of light are rocket exhausts. At times we can discern three points of light in a triangle formation. That information is telling. A rocket in retro fire as it comes down out of or into orbit from further out in space would more than likely not have three engines. Nor would we expect a returning probe or satellite to be of such a size that a considerable distance would separate the engines so much that they could be individually discerned. Rocket engines are clustered at a far distance they would appear as a solitary source of light. These are not. As rocket exhausts, it must have been a monstrous lifter to get this body into space if it is a conventional vehicle. We must assume, therefore, that it is something unconventional.

The wide spacing of the lights--not exactly from rocket exhausts--are in keeping with the wide spacings of the three bright lights often noted on the underside of the mysterious black triangles. That allows us to further speculate that what was recorded was a triangles coming back to Earth (perhaps from the Moon) with an incredible velocity to be throttled back and we are seeing the typical three bright lights (that evidently power such craft) as it slows its motion.


This whole narrative is just such uneducated crap with no supporting data. Just someone trying to sound like they know what they are talking about.....SO MUCH assumption meaning YOU ARE GUESSING at best. Not even an educated guess just a random guess!!



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 03:18 PM
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Breaking it down to a few points from, relatively speaking, a layman's perspective:

1. Is it a physical object (i.e. can we say there is definitely something there)?
Yes, unlike a lot of the CGI fakes etc, personally speaking I'd say there is something there.

2. Can we ascertain where it is located?
Not definitively, but considering the fact it would have needed to be moving at a remarkable speed (and be quite some size) for it to be moving so quickly if it was orbiting the Moon, I'd say that the chances are it's orbiting the Earth - or simply re-entering the atmosphere.

3. Is it identifiable?
No, and whilst that does make it a UFO - after all it remains unidentified - it doesn't make it an alien spacecraft.

All in all, I'd love to believe it was something of great significance I was looking at, but I think it's probably just some debris tumbling back down to the planet which produced it (but I hope I'm wrong )


Cool video though, always happy to see a new one pop up, so thanks for posting it.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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I am trying to find it, but this reminds me of the guy who filmed a fuel dump and tried to pass it off as a UFO with a booster going off.

He was filming a random part of the night sky and started tracking it as soon as it started. Turns out he was involved in a community that tracks satellites, rockets etc and he was waiting for it, then tried to pass it off as a UFO.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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Well, it sure looks like a real, non-cgi video capture of a manufactured, controlled object in space.

Whether or not the guy who videoed it is a 'nutter' is apples and oranges... even 'nutters' can use telescopes and cameras.

It's likely in close Earth orbit ...or it would be friggin huge! If it were nearer the moon than Earth ...well, it isn't... unless we're in for a literal huge surprise.

So it's likely a man-made "space-ship" maneuvering way up there... and so it's a cool, rare capture... and if it's a clandestine mission (or part of the fabled "Non-terrestrial Navel Fleet" or RKers, heh) than even neater.

It would be nice to have coordinates and directions to rule out 'knowns.'

Pretty good catch (unless, of course, it's cgi, heh) and, so far, unidentified ...and likely (VERY likely) man made.

I'd love to know what they're doing.


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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Taggart

I think he is trying to say the guy removed the time stamp from the video. That usually indicates you are trying to be dishonest about when the event happened.

Again, he tracks this fast moving object IMMEDIATELY. So either he tracks objects via sites (VERY COMMON) and he was waiting for this, or he faked it. To be looking through a telescope at the exact time this happens to come by and then be able to track it immediately??? C'MON MAN!

If he does indeed record this HD footage on a regular basis and he wants hard evidence supporting him, why not have a time stamp on the video?


Thanks for that, makes sense if that is a way people are used to deceiving people.
That said, how reliable are timestamps? Assuming we are talking about setting the clock on the camera, many people mess this up, whether having am instead of pm.

What I'm trying to say is, lets say the timestamp was on, how long before someone says "you could fake the timestamp"

I don't think it's an alien ship by any means but I also don't think it's fake footage, you could be right about him tracking satellites and passing it off though.
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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: Taggart

People might claim it was fake, sure, but what would that do? There's no reason to fake a time stamp...



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Taggart

People might claim it was fake, sure, but what would that do? There's no reason to fake a time stamp...


To be disingenuous.



posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: MKMoniker
a reply to: signalfire

Sorry, I vote HOAX:

1) The flare-up that's supposed to be thrusters, neither speeds up nor turns the object, it continues on the same trajectory at the same speed.

2) The flare-up seems to be from the right side of the object, but (again) no change in course or speed is noted.

3) Once past/below the Moon, the thrusters appear to fire from below the craft. Which should push the craft toward the Moon - when the object is actually moving away from the moon.

4) Based on the size of this object as measured against the Moon, it would have to be enormous. And although I'm not physicist or engineer, I doubt it would use "thrusters" for propulsion.

HOAX!



I don't know what it is, but I have to disagree with your points.

If these are engines firing, they are pointed roughly towards the Earth. This object may have flown in front of the moon, but it's clearly not orbiting the moon. If it's orbiting anything, it's the Earth.

I find it difficult to determine the exact direction of the "engines" after one viewing. It looks like it might be a retrograde burn, as others have suggested. We have no idea what the previous orbit might have looked like, nor where in that orbit the potential craft might be. It could be a burn to circularize an orbit, or it could be a burn meant to set up atmospheric re-entry.

Orbiting objects are moving at high speed and unlike an aircraft in atmospheric flight, adjustments that have a significant impact on the orbit will appear to show almost no change in course during a brief period of observation. Making sudden, sharp course corrections would require more thrust than any conventional technology would be able to produce. You make minor corrections at a point in space that translate into greater changes much later in the orbit.

The apparent lack of change in immediate course of the object supports an object in Earth orbit, if the flashes are indeed signs of thrust, and not reflections.

If the object showed signs of tumbling, I'd be more inclined to the possibility that the flashes are reflections off of solar panels.

Could it be a satellite? Maybe. However, it would be odd that something so large would not have been commonly spotted and previously cataloged by amateur astronomers. Why do I think it is large? It does appear to be an object in orbit, but there are no signs of atmospheric friction, so it's above the atmosphere. Just based on memory, it visually looks at least as big as the ISS in transit of the moon, probably bigger. Atmospheric entry occurs around 100KM. The ISS averages 330 Km altitude. If this is an orbiting object, as it appear it may be, it's pretty big.

Could it be a UFO? Well, by the literal definition, it is.

Could it be an Alien craft? Maybe. However, based on most observations, there seem to be very few reports of alleged alien craft relying on directional engines or thrusters for maneuvering.

If this is a space craft maneuvering in Earth orbit, it seems too big to be a regularly orbiting satellite. It may be too big to be a satellite period.

If the video is genuine and shows what it appears to show, my guess is that this is a classified spacecraft, most likely American, returning from orbit. Maybe even a space plane of some sort.

Aurora? Something in that vein? Very possible.




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