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Charles Hurt says most dangerous two years ahead for America

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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: signalfire

It's the Age of the Partisan Zombies; human beings so brainwashed from party propaganda all they can do is groan and mumble the talking points they heard on Fox or MSNBC. Political robots, programmed to accept division and celebrate being conquered, they ironically view anyone that doesn't share their ideology as 'sheep'.




posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals




I think the illegal amnesty issue will most likely be the first target to address. We cannot just open the borders wide allowing any and all in in just because the President "thinks it's a good idea".


I agree.

First they tell us this country is a nation by the rule of LAW.

Every time they open their mouths about amnesty they are telling us the LAW doesn't matter.

If one group of people don't have to follow the law, and get rewarded for breaking then any group can.


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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: neo96

It's right in your Numbersusa source, first item:


1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens


Who do you think signed that into law?

Side note:

I'd personally be embarrassed to repeat anything from any of the John Tanton spawned anti-immigration network but to each his own. Frankly, amnesty is probably the least of the threats facing the American worker. What also strikes me as ironic is how anti-immigration you are while you're simultaneously in love with the corporate overlords who want nothing more than cheap labor to exploit.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: signalfire

You think that most ATS members are stupid? that they don't know what is going on, with the system of government, the elite in power and those that rules from behind the presidential seat?

Just because some people are happy with the change of hart coming from American voters choosing the party that you may not be happy with it doesn't mean that the nation is saved, that amnesty is over, that the rich will not get richer, that billions will not go for the support of, and briberies of dishonest regimes across the word.

Everything is linked to a faux pass of economic corruption to keep the populations happy about the way that regimes and governments work, to the impression of economic prosperity and to keep the status quo.

Is all a lie, everything that we have grown and learn about is a lie.

But as long as the majority of the populations around the world thinks that is the norm people are in peace and only governments get to wag war.

You want to fix the world? do I? does anybody in this board does? want to fight the system and the corruption?

All you have is a complaining about people no knowing how to spell?

Perhaps that is the reason that divided we fall but united will never happen.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: signalfire

If you really think voting either Red or Blue will change things, think again.

If you think 'illegal immigrants' are the reason you work hard and never get ahead, think again.

If you're pissed about 'all that welfare money being given out freely' consider that it's ALL conjured up out of thin air, and why aren't you equally pissed about the hundreds of billions given out to the richest and most criminal banks in history? And remember that it was a Republican administration who orchestrated that most spectacular of heists.

If you think the Republicans have your best interests at heart, you're truly delusional. This is just another 'Clinton Diversion'; two years of wasted time while the news is filled with impeaching a Democratic president, the reason doesn't even matter; it will be an excuse to GET NOTHING DONE for two whole years and then install another Bush or even worse a McCarthyite like Ted Cruz (gag). Followed by another False Flag and more Endless Wars, because the corporations that buy the presidency demand it, and the United States slides ever further into outright fascism with a side order of military police on every street corner.

And all you flag wavers will get for your trouble and blind obedience will be a flag folded into a triangle sitting on your mantelpiece, instead of a live 20 year old son or daughter.


Actually, I'm very pisst about the trillions given to the rich, but this isn't limited to the GOP. This is both parties. We've had 6 years under Obama and the oil and gas industry is richer than they have ever been. How do you explain that? And it isn't just oil and gas...the top 10 corporations have so many trillions hoarded they outrival most nations of the world. This giving to the super rich has been furthered under Obama more than any other president. This isn't a democrat/republican thing, it's the way it is no matter who is in office.

The police state you refer to...sure it started long ago, but it's out of control under the current leadership. Why is that? Even law-abiding citizens I have discussions with are second-guessing current police tactics.

I'm not delusional, I see things very clearly. The GOP may have many faults, but they pale in comparison to Obama.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

So why did you stop reading there?

Because it went on 6 other times where Reagan wasn't president.



Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens


Reagan wasn't president in 94.



. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994


Wasn't president for that one either.



4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America


Wasn't president in 97



5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti


Wasn't president in 98



6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens


Wasn't president in 2000

So after the Reagan amnesty there were 6 following it by someone who isn't named Reagan.


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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:41 AM
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Executive Orders have ALWAYS been a part of the American way of Government.

ALWAYS, George Washington issued 8 himself.

Ronald Reagan has had the most of any modern President (including Obama) at 381 total.

Read a history book ferkristsake.

I for one sincerely hope that the Republicans continue to ignore immigration reform, campaign finance reform, keep funnelling the People's money to their buddies on Wall Street and the Military-Industrial Complex, and give us 24/7 Coverage on Impeachment/Benghazi ... then in 2016, the Democrats CAN actually run Mickey Mouse and win by a landslide, and Obama will be remembered as the greatest President of the 21st century, and the Republicans can finally go the way of the Whigs and the Bull Moose Party.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:47 AM
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As for the OP, yes, I do worry a little bit about it. I think Obama is an ideological extremist with an authoritarian bent to him, and with nothing to lose, I can see him pulling out all the stops to forward his agenda. That said, realistically, I think his power to do so is now greatly limited. They still have the potential to make an even bigger mess of foreign policy than they already have, but on domestic affairs, I don't think Obama is particularly dangerous except in his ability to use the presidency to sway public opinion. Given his popularity, or lack thereof, I'm not sure he can even do that now. Further, even though I think he's an ideological crusader, he looks to have become detached and disinterested in it all as time has passed. I'm not sure he even gives a damn anymore, but is just going through the motions at this point until his term ends.

I think he's essentially done as a political force in US politics. He's a lame duck in every sense.
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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I wish it was that easy, I wish people will open the eyes and see the deception of politics, but they will never do.

Politics is complex monster that has grown too big to be handle by one person, or even one country. Government along with economics is an intertwine net that has all the people in the world tangle up in it, to never be left free to do as what we humans were mean to do.

Is not free anything, we all belong and are owned by a system.

Wake up people, because the truth is that we will never brake free, so why fighting for political parties when our future is already decided for us at time of birth.

And that is the honest truth.

Sad, isn't, BTW I am just ranting.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Yea... No... Obama isn't going to be able to do anything more than he has done already. All of his executive mandates haven't been as disastrous as claimed. This is probably going to be the freshest two years this nation has had in a long time as the government remains at a gridlock, doing next to nothing.


Amnesty for 11 million illegals will be disastrous for America!


They are already here. They are already working. They are already using US resources and even if no amnesty they will remain here doing exactly what they are doing now through your entire lifetime. No politician is going to load buses up and ship them home. It just wont happen.

Amnesty on the other hand opens the door for identification, taxation, Pay into social security and making them responsible for their actions like any other law abiding citizen.

Unless your a Native American Indian then you too are a descendent of border crossers. You have no right to deny America to anyone. If anyone has that right it would be the Native American Population. You are an illegal alien to Americas rightful inhabitants the Native Americans. Your ancestors stole these lands and nearly committed genocide on its native population.

What gives you a right to deny American soil to anyone?



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:58 AM
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Obama's wrath against his traitor base will be from the Cabinet Executive Branches.

He will really go nuts now with the IRS, DOJ, EPA, DHS, etc.

Many agencies have huge latitudes to create regulations beyond belief.

Obama will not sit still for this slap in the face.

He will get even at all costs.

He is vengeful, he holds grudges, he is extremely jealous, he is a "get even" kind of guy.

Very dangerous to the majority of citizens who are and have been represented by his opposition.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: Xeven

Yes and welfare too, is something I don't get it when people claim that if you are not a Native American you were all immigrants, see when the first people came into this country, they work for what they have, they build this country, now they don't have to work but live on those that do the work, they get to live on welfare, something that native Americans never had when the pilgrims came into the new world, and they didn't have it either, welfare is a modern ailment that is killing this nation.

Once an American citizen you don't have to work for menial wages, just lie back and let others work for you and you extended family.


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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: daaskapital




If it's two things i don't understand about Americans, it is their hate for Socialism and their hate for Obama.


LOL wow.




Socialist policies aren't all that bad when you look at countries like Australia and Canada.


Not all bad eh.

I guess so if one believes in changing the environment to suit the individual instead of doing what people have been doing long before governments ever came along.

Hell the only thing socialism aka social engineering has done has created the worlds largest zoo. You know that place where zoo keepers feed them, and give them free heath care, and homes,and stuff.

Which makes politicians the worlds highest paid zoo keepers in the world.

Rather ironic though as when people go to zoos they are told 'don't feed' the animals' because it creates dependence where the animal is unable return to the wild.

There is a hell of a lot wrong with 'socialist' policies.

The people do have a hipper rap but it's is ALL about greed and materialism.

Everything they decry.
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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Xeven

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Yea... No... Obama isn't going to be able to do anything more than he has done already. All of his executive mandates haven't been as disastrous as claimed. This is probably going to be the freshest two years this nation has had in a long time as the government remains at a gridlock, doing next to nothing.


Amnesty for 11 million illegals will be disastrous for America!


They are already here. They are already working. They are already using US resources and even if no amnesty they will remain here doing exactly what they are doing now through your entire lifetime. No politician is going to load buses up and ship them home. It just wont happen.

Amnesty on the other hand opens the door for identification, taxation, Pay into social security and making them responsible for their actions like any other law abiding citizen.

Unless your a Native American Indian then you too are a descendent of border crossers. You have no right to deny America to anyone. If anyone has that right it would be the Native American Population. You are an illegal alien to Americas rightful inhabitants the Native Americans. Your ancestors stole these lands and nearly committed genocide on its native population.

What gives you a right to deny American soil to anyone?


America is open to anyone....who comes here legally!

You forgot one other thing amnesty opens the door for....government services and benefits (welfare in the form of housing assistance, food stamps, health care, heating assistance, WIC, etc.)

Yes, they are already here paying taxes when they work, but they aren't receiving trillions in government services that will be open to them.

And then consider the millions more illegals that will come here seeking amnesty rather than coming here to America through the legal process, like every other welcomed immigrant. How many more trillions will this cost the taxpayer?

BTW, I am Native American.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:22 PM
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America is open to anyone....who comes here legally!


Yep.

Anyone who wants to come here can as long as they knock on the front door, and instead of coming through the back door helping themselves to anything they want.

Anyone who shows respect to this nations laws is most certainly welcome.

Those who don't ?

Don't let the door hit them on their way out.

The problem with this country is that we already have too many people that think they are 'above' the law.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Rezlooper



The problem with this country is that we already have too many people that think they are 'above' the law.


Or worst, that they can change the laws to fit their own agendas.
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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Obama's wrath against his traitor base will be from the Cabinet Executive Branches.

He will really go nuts now with the IRS, DOJ, EPA, DHS, etc.

Many agencies have huge latitudes to create regulations beyond belief.

Obama will not sit still for this slap in the face.

He will get even at all costs.

He is vengeful, he holds grudges, he is extremely jealous, he is a "get even" kind of guy.

Very dangerous to the majority of citizens who are and have been represented by his opposition.



And you are delusional as usual..


Your making crap up as usual..but it is xuechen, would expect nothing else from you..



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Rezlooper



The problem with this country is that we already have too many people that think they are 'above' the law.


Or worst, that they can change the laws to fit their own agendas.


For those who aren't paying attention, and I know you are.

Amnesty is a prime example of that.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Rezlooper


BTW, I am Native American.


As a Native American...I just laugh at all these cries about immigration and it's goal to destroy their ways of life.

Kind of sounds familiar...you know what they say.."what goes around comes around"

I welcome our brothers and sisters from the south.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: Onslaught2996

WHAT ?

Saying the current administration wasn't using government agencies to target his opposition ?

Hey ?

Guess what ?

THAT IS WHAT HE HAS BEEN DOING.

He was also using the Senate to block everything the House tried to do.

That isn't delusional.

THAT's FACT!.




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