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Charles Hurt says most dangerous two years ahead for America

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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Rezlooper




Let's hope you're wrong about that. I


I hope I am.

But after the last 6 years . I have noticed that people just love to hate Republicans.

After the 'do nothing' House.

Now it's going to be the 'do nothing' Senate.

Vote Democrat in 2016 for insert another simpleton slogan like 'Hope and change'.




posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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The presider may rant and rave, but that isn't on the teleprompter so the American people won't hear it.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Remember that the working class in the nation has been robbed, abused and robbed some more to accommodate for the poor class and to keep the wealthy class wealthy, it didn't started with Obama is been going for decades.

Still I see a coming gesture to stop amnesty by the opposing party to show the voters that they are doing something

Still if Obama declares amnesty by executive decision I don't expect the opposing party do nothing more than the gesture of doing something.

The next month or so is going to be pretty amusing.

13 million new voters eagle to exercises their new found American way and the American dream is a lot of people to fight for, so I expect that amnesty to be rammed into the American legal working class like a run away train.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Rezlooper

President Obama is like a cornered animal? Is that all the GOP can come up with?



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: Rezlooper

He certainly does have things to lose. His Presidency for one. His freedom for another, if he breaks the law. His life for a third, in case he performs treason. You appear to buy into all the right wing hype that seems to give Obama more power than he actually has. I'd be willing to make a wager with you that Obama never gives amnesty to any illegals without Congress' approval.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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You have not idea, more than half of those that will get amnesty will be collecting welfare benefits for them and their extended families.

That is the future of for the working class.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: daaskapital

Actually been an outsider gives you a more unbiased view of Americans politics, thanks for your observations.




posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Rezlooper

You have not idea, more than half of those that will get amnesty will be collecting welfare benefits for them and their extended families.

That is the future of for the working class.



Yep. Here is an article about how much amnesty will cost the American taxpayer. Most illegals have no more than a 10th grade educational level which means very low earning potential. This means that with heads of households like this, they will get four times as much in government services and benefits than they will pay in taxes. Over their lifetimes, these 11 million will cost America $6 trillion and who pays for that?

Amnesty for illegals will cost American taxpayers



An exhaustive study by the Heritage Foundation has found that after amnesty, current unlawful immigrants would receive $9.4 trillion in government benefits and services and pay more than $3 trillion in taxes over their lifetimes. That leaves a net fiscal deficit (benefits minus taxes) of $6.3 trillion. That deficit would have to be financed by increasing the government debt or raising taxes on U.S. citizens.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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I don't understand why anyone thinks that Obama is a socialist. I can only attribute it to partisan brainwashing. You're talking about a guy who killed the public option. Beginning with Reagan, they've all been neoliberals. There's no left-wing party in the US let alone a socialist agenda.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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Thanks for the links, Heritage Foundation is a site that I love to research for statistics and reviews, this is only for those that are currently residing in the US after amnesty the extended families will be able to come to the US and will be easier for them to become residents. That is the part that the government is not adding.

The 13 millions or so, will become double or triple that amount in the coming years after amnesty, all qualifying for welfare and social benefits, falling on the heads and pockets of the working class.

But hey if that means saving the ruling party, lets screw the working class for votes and worry about from where the money is gong to come from.

Mission accomplished.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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Do you people EVER proofread your posts before you hit 'reply?'

Seriously. I know the American school system sucks but an awful lot of these posts were incoherent, unreadable drivel. I'm embarrassed to be from the same country and I'm willing to bet people reading these posts in Europe are thinking 'my god, Americans are stuuuuuppppiiiddddd... what's causing this? The fluoride? The Twinkies? The 'smartphones?'

Stop watching Fox Spews and listening to Rush Limbaugh and stop thinking in sound bites. The truth of American politics is both far simpler, and far more convoluted. You've been lied to from ALL sides but it takes a bit of deductive reasoning to figure that out and you seem unable to muster up the will to do the work involved.

If you really think voting either Red or Blue will change things, think again.

If you think 'illegal immigrants' are the reason you work hard and never get ahead, think again.

If you're pissed about 'all that welfare money being given out freely' consider that it's ALL conjured up out of thin air, and why aren't you equally pissed about the hundreds of billions given out to the richest and most criminal banks in history? And remember that it was a Republican administration who orchestrated that most spectacular of heists.

If you think the Republicans have your best interests at heart, you're truly delusional. This is just another 'Clinton Diversion'; two years of wasted time while the news is filled with impeaching a Democratic president, the reason doesn't even matter; it will be an excuse to GET NOTHING DONE for two whole years and then install another Bush or even worse a McCarthyite like Ted Cruz (gag). Followed by another False Flag and more Endless Wars, because the corporations that buy the presidency demand it, and the United States slides ever further into outright fascism with a side order of military police on every street corner.

And all you flag wavers will get for your trouble and blind obedience will be a flag folded into a triangle sitting on your mantelpiece, instead of a live 20 year old son or daughter.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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I have these fears as well. An injured, cornered dog. I just hope the GOP majority will hold his feet to the fire and block any illegal executive orders. But some GOP leadership will still try to kiss hispanic a** and puke about amnesty in order to get votes. They don't understand that no matter who gives illegals amnesty, they will vote democrat given the chance. They cannot be given that chance.

Kinda got off-topic, sorry, but Mr. Hurt has some valid points.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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Do you imagine that amnesty is something that started with Obama? To date, Reagan is still the reigning king of amnesty. How many attempts were there at amnesty in the Bush years, supported by Bush? Ever hear of the "Gang of 8?"



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:09 AM
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Oh yeah... We sent them a message alright! Yeah elect republicans cause they so different and they are principled moral people! Yay!

Sell me a bridge.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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Why do Americans vote republican? Are you guys that easily persuaded by TV commercials? Now your Congress is gong to waste more of your tax money on pleasing the fat cats instead of serving the people of your country.

Canada is not any better with voting in the cons... But that is Ontario and Quebec's fault because they are so populated in the east.

But still. You know Congress is only going to get worse and blame everything on Obama. When it is congress that does not show up for work, they are out working for the rich and robbing the poor and middle classes.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:15 AM
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The American pedulum swang too far left.
Now I just HOPE the damn RIGHT doesn't loose it's MIND.
We are in a cold war, going hot would mean a draft possibly in the ARCTIC this time ,it fits the mold.
I am a pessimist.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: snypwsd

This whole premise is ludicrous. Who cares what party it is this whole idea of party affiliations needs to die.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Rezlooper

Do you imagine that amnesty is something that started with Obama? To date, Reagan is still the reigning king of amnesty. How many attempts were there at amnesty in the Bush years, supported by Bush? Ever hear of the "Gang of 8?"


No Reagan wasn't the 'king' of Amnesty.

www.numbersusa.com...

7 of them.

Lots of them during the Clinton years.

Hell GW tried to do something but the left blocked it.

Now it's rinse and repeat.

The only 'reform' we need is the GD laws enforced, and stop with 'amnesty's period because they don't effing work.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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"LOOKOUT! HE'S GOT A PEN!
- and he's not afraid to use it.
This should bring us to the crux of the issue about so-called "executive orders", something not provided for in the Constitution and never really challenged in court to my knowledge. EOs must be ended, we never intended to give the office of the President unilateral powers to act like Caesar and if the founding fathers had wanted that they would have made George Washington absolute ruler.
I think the illegal amnesty issue will most likely be the first target to address.
We cannot just open the borders wide allowing any and all in in just because the President "thinks it's a good idea".
Time to reign in the madness I pray.

Eta: Apparently EOs have been contested and struck down before. What I didn't know was that EOs were used to confiscate all gold in private hands as well as the internment of Japanese-Americans, both issued by FDR.
edit on 5-11-2014 by Asktheanimals because: added comments



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: snypwsd

Why do Americans vote for Democrats? Believe me, they're no better than the Republicans in the ways you describe. At one time perhaps they could sell themselves as the party of the average person, but those days are long gone.

You should not view these election results as an endorsement of the GOP. Its a repudiation of the Democrats and their policies. As I said in another post, we'll see if the GOP is smart enough to understand this. Unfortunately, I don't think they are, nor are the Democrats. The GOP will take it as a mandate, and the Dem reaction will be to think they didn't swing hard enough to the far left. Both interpretations are incorrect. The American people are fed up with the partisan bull****. They don't want radicals and extremists of either variety.



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