New study shows Eastern european imigrants in the UK put more in than they take out.

I accept your views on life.

That is all I can say on the matter.

I would like to say more but we both know it would make no difference.

Good luck and may peace be with you.

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

On trying to re read your post I struggle. You really are a nasty piece of work with some horible issues are you not?

They? who are they?

Others? Have a lot of fun with al that. I wil do otherwise you angry nasty person.

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Thank You, couldn't have said it better.

You call it as you see it while others seem to keep their head in the sand and tend to become apologist for the ways of the immigrants that seem to try to establish in their new home that which they fled.

a reply to: nonspecific

What's with the schizophrenic replies..?

Spare me your self righteous outrage. By they I mean exactly who my two posts were talking about, don't be obtuse... like using the word "they" would be some kind of outrageous offence.

Here's another one for you, guaranteed to get your blood boiling:
You people are all the same!

I only speak the truth, there is nothing I said that can't be backed up by cold hard facts.

But do me a favour, answer me this question, would I somehow magically become Japanese by moving to Japan, or Chinese by moving to China?

By the way, just because someone believes in determinism or semi-determinism doesn't make them stupid enough to be completely careless about their well-being, like their deterministic philosophy would somehow always be on their mind as they go about their life.
"I'll be completely stupid and put myself in life threatening situations because I believe everything is predestined", well, guess what Sherlock, that hypothetical person wouldn't know that he'd survive traffic being careless just because he's a believer in determinism, if he got hit, that was fate. Whoever wrote that quote must have trouble comprehending the idea of determinism. Not witty, not clever, makes no sense.

It's a study from an organisation that receives 50 million from the EU. It doesn't include housing benefit which is not only one of the largest handouts to foreigners but also the most damaging since it forces up rents for UK natives and prevents our businesses from being able to compete with those in places with a lower cost of living.

Also it has picked dates to fake the results. For example it is mostly pre tax credits (an evil scheme where foreigners who pretend to sell the big issue receive 500+ pounds a week in handouts). It excludes the Romanians and Bulgarians that come to beg but includes all the French millionaires fleeing Socialism.

It also ignores the costs of all the jobless Brits that are displaced by the foreign workers.

Also it focuses only on taxes - so what if more money is funneled to our already overpaid political class? Private sector wages are going down.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: woogleuk

How much of a strain on public services since the Tories have cut public spending, yet have not reduced taxes for the majority of people and are still borrowing at record levels?

Actually it's worse than that. The Tories have raised taxes, increased public spending, and are still borrowing at record levels.

This release of the so-called facts about immigration into the UK is a very timely release don't people think???

Cameron has backed himself up into the creek without a paddle and probably a raft on this one and so the media is trying to rescue his sorry ass. He can't alter the EU law on immigration and rights of travel to work etc despite his so-called bluster - when he blusters it means he's lying and deliberately misleading the public.

He knows people have really had enough and the tide has turned. He should also know not to insult the intelligence of the people with his stupid statistics and crony reports that are untrustworthy. The simplest test is how do you employ someone whose English is so bad they can't communicate? The other one for the British public is that we are a very small island and we are already too over populated for the social services to be effective in many areas - we need new immigrants like a hole in the head.

With the unemployed were they to be trained after a few months of unemployment into jobs that are vacant such as the HGV drivers we are supposedly short of, unemployment would go down rapidly instead of importing more people and leaving the unemployed to sit instead of getting a fair crack at employment. It only takes a short time to retrain for job vacancies like this but common sense seems to elude our decision makers at the top - but then they are all from wealthy families and haven't a clue plus shouldn't be doing the job they are doing as they are not experienced enough.

Well yes title is true if you just exclude all the hospital, school, DHSS benefits and police costs.

Immigrants in France want to get to the land of free housing and to have a free lunch and those that work are only being let in to push wages down even more.

The UK does not have jobs for its own people so where is the logic for letting more in when few hard working couple can even afford to buy themselves a house.

I am going to seem hypocritical and backtracking here, tonight I was deeply touched by the word's of an old sailor who talked about the sacrifice for freedom.

It is true we are being swamped by people who have no intention of taking up our culture and this is making us angry but I feel there is another hand at work in that, these people no matter there differences and lack of true right to what is ours despite our corrupt government's are in many cases just like us, they are fleeing a terrible life thinking that the end of the rainbow is here in Britain, we know different but from what they have come to what they have come too they really do see our country as a paradise.

But for the grace of god there go I is the old saying, something has to be done and we have to save our nations but we must not walk down the path of the extreme right but nevertheless we need stern governance and protection of our own people's within our nations, we need to immediately limit the influx of foreigners and to somehow increase out own peoples birth rates so that the imbalance that is tipping our societys over the edge can be redressed and we can then absorb the immigrants who are already here, one solution that would send everyone screaming is to limit non eu immigrants family size or revoke there citizenship if they go over that limit for three generations so slowing there (in the case of the Islamic community very real and genuine attempt to increase there numbers in order to fulfil an ideological and religious command to take what belongs to the non believers), this will allow those that are here already to merge over time with our nation and make it a copable situation which it is presently most certainly not.

Recently three Nordic Prime ministers cautioned David Cameron about his proposed limitations of free movement within the EU (I do not see Free movement of EU citizens as a problem as long as they are true EU citizens and not convenience immigrants, also benefits migrants should not be allowed as those benefits are for our people paid for from our sweat and blood not there's).

What I read into there concerns was that they see the UK as a honey pot to attract the migrants they do not want, they already have problems as outlined elsewhere and do not want those people being denied entry into the UK then heading for there country's and that is why they tried to gang up on Cameron over that issue so the want the free movement to stay as the EU is rapidly turning into a rich mans paradise while the working class of western Europe are becoming impoverished by the influx and movement of jobs east within the Eurozone by companys who are capitalizing on cheap labour within the EU rather than there origin country's.

People are people, but this is my country and the British are my people, Sweden belongs to the Swedes and the Swedish are there people.

But money and that is what this is all about has no morals and no loyalty, the EU is a den of Corruption and fraud with those making a killing off of it willing to destroy it like some massive hidden corporation that is chewing up the nations for a fast buck.

Even the Credit crunch has been capitalized on by these ultra wealthy and I feel it is actually an artificially engineered situation created for this very purpose or why are the rich getting richer while the poor and middle classes are becoming poorer.

Who cares if it's true or not, no normal person wants their country turned into an international airport.

And it's always the money argument they wheel out at these times.

"Look at all this lovely moolah we're making, folks! Wanna reconsider?"

I don't care about the money; it's only big businesses who are laughing all the way to the bank.

The whole system is designed so that big businesses prosper.

Any extra cash floating around just gives the government more incentive to overspend anyway.

If this is heaven, why does it feel like hell?