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Entering the Dark Age of the GOP in power

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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Yep...DAMN them for stopping Govt from growing and taking more power.




posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

So you basically prove my point.

They still could have done it, but they simply didn't do it the way you wanted it done. Part of the reason for that isn't because they didn't want to do it that way or because the Republicans could block them because they couldn't, but because there were too many people in the rest of the country who simply didn't want it that way and they knew it.

Despite what you might think, single payer is NOT a popular idea in this country.


edit on 5-11-2014 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Aside from the hysterical statement of forcing prayer in schools, what you propose is exactly as how the Country was created and how it is supposed to function.

Your statement here............brings more of a smile on my face then dancing around wildly proclaiming that in fact your side and ideals were shown the door, with a boot to the ass last night.

What else should they do?



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: macman

of course they are going to keep getting higher!! that's what happens when the people are forced to buy the products!
but well can't help but ask myself just what was the motive behind the ACA to begin with? Why this sudden rush to revamp healthcare??
Could it really be that they were more concerned with quietly saving the insurance system than anybody's health??
Just a question.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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If I was Harry Reid I would screw the Republicans

Heres how they can do it

GOP pushes funding cuts for social science work


WASHINGTON — If Republicans have their way, a Harvard University anthropologist would not be using tax dollars to study the impact of China’s one-child policy. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology political scientist would not have the money to research how Medicare changes might shape seniors’ political attitudes. And a Brown University archeologist would not be spending hundreds of thousands of dollars examining textiles from the Viking Age.

This is the latest front in a GOP-led war against the federal funding of social science and other research, including the study of climate change, in an age of fiscal austerity. House Republicans are questioning millions of dollars in National Science Foundation grants awarded to researchers across the country by singling out dozens of projects for extra scrutiny.


This is the issue I would set up and screw over.

Use the issue of science against the republicans
Stay way away from climate change and do NOT let it become part of the debate for the power struggle

Make the republicans deny it

Focus on NASA's accomplichments
Paint them as the children of

William_Proxmire



Golden Fleece Award[edit]
Proxmire was noted for issuing his Golden Fleece Award.,[5] which was presented monthly between 1975 and 1988, in order to focus media attention on projects Proximire viewed as self-serving and wasteful of taxpayer dollars.[1] The first Golden Fleece Award was awarded in 1975 to the National Science Foundation, for funding an $84,000 study on why people fall in love.[1] Other Golden Fleece awards over the years were awarded to the Justice Department for conducting a study on why prisoners wanted to get out of jail, the National Institute of Mental Health to study a Peruvian brothel ("The researchers said they made repeated visits in the interests of accuracy," reported The New York Times), and the Federal Aviation Administration, for studying "the physical measurements of 432 airline stewardesses, paying special attention to the 'length of the buttocks.'"[1]

Proxmire's critics claimed that some of his awards went to basic science projects that led to important breakthroughs. In some circles his name has become a verb, meaning to unfairly obstruct scientific research for political gain, as in "the project has been proxmired". In 1987, Stewart Brand accused Proxmire of recklessly attacking legitimate research for the crass purpose of furthering his own political career, with gross indifference as to whether his assertions were true or false as well as the long-term effects on American science and technology policy.[13] Proxmire later apologized for several cancelled projects, including SETI.

One winner of the Golden Fleece Award, Ronald Hutchinson, sued Proxmire for defamation in 1976. Proxmire claimed that his statements about Hutchinson's research were protected by the Speech or Debate Clause of the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that that clause does not immunize members of Congress from liability for defamatory statements made outside of formal congressional proceedings (Hutchinson v. Proxmire, 443 U.S. 111 (1979)). The case was eventually settled out of court.[14]



Focus on reasearch grants they will cut
breast cancer research
Space travel research
Just stay away from climate change

Make 2016 over science and the white house is thiers
Paint them as anti science

Make sure all your Democratic representatives are on the same page and have very accurate cliff notes
MAKE the reps go through science courses

The younger gen and sci fi fans will have the back of the Democratic party

those become your talking points



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

No, it's a Trojan horse bill. They created a death spiral. With the insurance industries under such tight control. they might as well be government run, and the intent is to create a system no one can afford while also de-coupling people from their employer insurance plans. Then, when there is a system that no one can afford and another crisis ... everyone begs for the government to save them from another crisis the government created to begin with. This is when single payer is introduced and the government takes control openly.

The ACA is basically fascism that will lead to socialism.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: ripcontrol

What space program?

The Democrats already scrapped much of it and relegated NASA to Muslim outreach.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

The reason behind the ACA??? A Cloward-Piven style approach to march us to Single Payer.


More Govt control.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: macman
a reply to: Willtell

Yep...DAMN them for stopping Govt from growing and taking more power.


VA benefits were cut under bush, careful for what you wish for.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

thats the whole point
triple down and reinvest

call the republicans out as anti science

Staff it with new competent people of many races and sex
Find a gay astronaut to lead the mission(I advise lip stick lesbian)

(I promise the idea is not me having a partial agenda.. )

The GOP Intensifies Its Attacks On The National Science Foundation



Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), the Chairman of the House Science Committee on Science, Space and Technology has repeatedly denounced the National Science Foundation for squandering taxpayer money on frivolous research. Now he's gone a step further, demanding personal political scrutiny of peer-reviewed research grants.

Smith has used several hearings this year as an opportunity to publicly lambast the National Science Foundation (NSF)—including a combative March 26 hearing where he lectured White House Science Advisor John Holdren on the "lack of transparency and accountability at the agency" by singling out grants such as a study of the ecological consequences of early human-set fires in New Zealand. (That research promises to yield insights into anthropogenic climate change—not a popular topic for Smith and fellow GOP representatives on the committee.)


The strategy will work


The issue is silencing the ones with hands in the pot..

Unless the GOP uses its control to use it against the Dems

They invite the New pope to NASA
Dems lose white house
Science is the perfect issue no party has staked out a major claim to



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

Ahhhh, who said I was for or against that??

Seems the VA under 0bama was pushing to remove health care for vets....


Dude, honestly. You and your side were shown the door last night.
Your excuses and whining don't really matter much.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: ripcontrol

So, Anti-Science because they want to reign in funding crap...


The correct term is "anti-Govt-funded-programs-related-to-science".



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ripcontrol

What space program?

The Democrats already scrapped much of it and relegated NASA to Muslim outreach.



democrats scrapped Nasa...proof?...and "relegated to Muslim outreach"?...have you been drinking?



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: ripcontrol

Because the most important thing about who we send into space is how they have sex not how qualified they are?

This is stupid, and it should backfire on democrats.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: guitarplayer
a reply to: Willtell

How about the senate finally being able to pass bills that Dingy Harry has not allowed to be voted on? How many bills does he have on his desk? Somewhere around 300. Maybe we will finally get a budget and not continuing spending resolutions.

How many bills does Bohner have on his desk? Johnny the drunkard has been doing the same a Harry. Both sides do the same thing and none of it benefits the middle class or the poor just the wealthy who paid for their elections. And no we will not get a budget it the responsibility of Congress to make a budget and they wasn't able to do it while the Dems had the Senate and they still won't get one passed.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: macman
a reply to: jimmyx

Ahhhh, who said I was for or against that??

Seems the VA under 0bama was pushing to remove health care for vets....


Dude, honestly. You and your side were shown the door last night.
Your excuses and whining don't really matter much.


you believe anything you want.................dude



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ripcontrol

Because the most important thing about who we send into space is how they have sex not how qualified they are?

This is stupid, and it should backfire on democrats.



the only thing that backfired on democrats was their belief that there were enough critical-thinking voters
edit on 5-11-2014 by jimmyx because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: macman

I want everyone to keep in mind I usually get labeled conservative

Some of the programs were just excuses to fund administrative practices of the administrations of the universities
some paid off more then others

in the end, I do not think those that make the science decisions should be untrained in the issues they manage
Example is the new Ebola Czar



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx



you believe anything you want.................dude


remind me again what happened last night....



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

You get no argument from me on this

The idea is straight out of Gingrich's playbook (my idea here)

In reference to his outing of those with bounced checks when he himself was on the list.. Designated hypocrite used it as an issue for power

The dems need to come out swinging
But they wont

Power and corruption




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