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Entering the Dark Age of the GOP in power

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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: dawnstar

The 80% rule has nothing to do with deductibles.

It only rebates some of the policy cost.

The bankruptcies will still increase.

People are still on the hooks.





posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Your delusional…how are they going to solve something when every time they try the GOP stops it?

The bill to punish corporations that go overseas with American jobs WAS STOPPED COLD BY THE GOP

The food stamp cuts was propelled by them

The college loan start of a solution was stopped by the GOP

So what are you talking about ?



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
I am so disappointed in the republicans. They stole another election, the only way they know how to win. The voter suppression laws and less voting days was a evil strategic move. They knew every vote was going to count. Gerrymandering goes across both party lines, but Democrats do not pass laws to stop people from voting. I hope democrats will just sit back for the next two years, recover from the long hard battle to do good for the poor and laborers. It is time for cold conservatism, warmed by fires of many wars, to reign.


The voter i.d. laws stopped Democrats from voting in Republican areas?

I wonder how many votes that added up to?




posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: howmuch4another

Those are local elections. The goal was to take Senate power. The democrats running this year were spineless, running away from Obama, falling into the republicans plan of making the election about Obama. Instead of telling us what are they going to do about people who have pre-existing conditions when they dismantle Obamacare?


Ummm, you can't gerrymander an entire state.

The whole population votes on senators, just like they do on their governors.

Face it. People just didn't vote for democrats last night.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


originally posted by: MOMof3
Democrats do not pass laws to stop people from voting.

You are right .. just the opposite. They tell democrats to 'vote early and often' and they try to give mass amnesty to illegals in order to gain tons of voting democrats.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ketsuko

Your delusional…how are they going to solve something when every time they try the GOP stops it?

The bill to punish corporations that go overseas with American jobs WAS STOPPED COLD BY THE GOP

The food stamp cuts was propelled by them

The college loan start of a solution was stopped by the GOP

So what are you talking about ?


Hey, there were two years when the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority. Every single thing they wanted to do, they could. How do you think Obamacare got through?

If they didn't do something in those two years, it was because they simply didn't want to or didn't do it the way you wanted it done. It wasn't because they couldn't have done it.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ketsuko

Your delusional…how are they going to solve something when every time they try the GOP stops it?

The bill to punish corporations that go overseas with American jobs WAS STOPPED COLD BY THE GOP

The food stamp cuts was propelled by them

The college loan start of a solution was stopped by the GOP

So what are you talking about ?


Hey, there were two years when the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority. Every single thing they wanted to do, they could. How do you think Obamacare got through?

If they didn't do something in those two years, it was because they simply didn't want to or didn't do it the way you wanted it done. It wasn't because they couldn't have done it.


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If they had a filibuster proof congress they could have passed a true national health care bill---single payer.

The fact is they didn’t have a filibuster proof because of the 60 vote rule in the Senate

THE ACA barley passed and Obama used up all his political capital with the passing of the ACA

Many democrats themselves who are conservative like the GOP would have not gone along with any more than something like the ACA

The greedy selfish country don't even want this flimsy ACA act that they ignorantly call socialism

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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I never said it did. but if no one meets that deductible does that mean that they have to rebate most of their revenue since there would be far less of it going to their clients healthcare??
so I guess in a way it would limit the amount of the deductible to an extent wouldn't it?



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Good to see you admitting that massive Republican voter suppression efforts paid off last night, Xuenchen!

You really are having an honest couple of days, thanking God for the Religious Right and the Tea Party and now this!

So much for your supposed non-partisan independence, eh?


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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

Do you honestly believe there is a difference between the two? Do you not see that nothing changes for the better no matter which party is in control? Do you not realize these are all players on the same team?

I see you are pretty active on this site, and would think that you were educated beyond believing in this two party mumbo jumbo.

Wolves and Sheeple



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

But if it were a republican doing shady deals like that, it is ok. Like it is ok to pass laws to suppress voters or like it is ok to hire illegals for cheap tax cheating labor, that is why republicans do not want to mandate businesses use Everify.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:06 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


originally posted by: MOMof3
But if it were a republican doing shady deals like that, it is ok.

Says who? I've said previously on this forum that people who knowingly hire illegals for cheap labor should be prosecuted.

I answered your statement. You said Democrats don't pass voter suppression laws. I showed that they do just the opposite to try to get the same effect - tell their voters to 'vote early and vote often' (voter fraud) and they try to bring in millions of illegals and pay them off with citizenship in order to buy votes.

As to the Republicans putting in voter suppression laws .. no. Requiring a person to show an ID at the voter booth isn't 'suppressing'. It's common sense. Prove who you are and that you can vote so you can vote. Free Voter ID cards are provided for those who want them. That's not suppressing legitimate votes, it's keeping the 'vote early and vote often' voters down to only one vote and it's keeping the illegals out. That's something democrats should want if they really want fair elections.

Republicans and Democrats both try to cheat the system.
Democrats aren't guilt free.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: macman

it could be but i'm pretty sure two Democrats in the house voted for them to.
i know that there is stil pressure to have it repealed.

Obamacare repeal pressure building on Mitch McConnell, John Boehner

the real test would be if they have enough balls to override a veto which obama would surely do.


I'm curious. What do you think would happen if they did?

What is the plan here? I haven't seen any great ideas about how to insure people with pre-existing conditions who were left to die under the old policies. I'm not being overly dramatic here - this is how it was. "Death panels" = "Insurance Executives wanting more profit and less risk"

If someone has a plan, I would love to know about it. Going back to the way things were is not acceptable. Is my child's life worthless? Not to me. I have a very high stake in this matter. See, that's kind of how the old system would treat him the moment he got off of our insurance, IF we were able to maintain it with the overinflated price jack we got each year which was $1200 per month ($14400 per year just for insurance) and rising.

I am willing to listen. Is there a plan???

peace,
AB



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

That ain't working. That volunteer crap. You want to promote guns and expensive fences all around the perimeter of the US, corret? Everify is cheaper and more effective, in combination with border security. I lived in Moses Lake, Wa in the midst of illegals because of the farming.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:18 PM
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I think that what this really showed was that people are frustrated with government.

If the GOP were smart, they would pick a dozen issues that most people agree on and advertise that this is what they will be working on for the next two years.

But most likely they will not put forth united front on common sense issues and instead will push their right wing agenda and then in two years the dems will be back in power.

Little will be done by either party except they will continue to tax the people and spend like drunks.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:23 PM
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I can't wait, honestly ... the more I read here, the more excited I get!

Republicans! Please ...

1. Repeal Obamacare ... time to put up or shut up Republicans ... do it! Go!

2. Impeach the President --- Americans do love an impeachment party ... just ask Bill Clinton!

3. Have more Benghazi Investigations, because hey, Lucky 13 just aren't enough!

3. Ignore immigration reform --- yep, win those Latino hearts and minds, Redstate guys and gals, yessir!

4. Return enforced prayer to schools, heck, why stop there, go ahead and make Christianity the official religion of the USA!

5. Try to reverse marriage equality, a bit harder but, hey, you guys have promises to keep to the good folk back home.

6. ...and please don't stop with the ACA, privatize Social Security, and do away with Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare and Food Stamps ... because, hey, people don't need to eat or go to the doctor, at least, not the "wrong kind of people" amirite?




posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I'll take #1 and (both) #3's. The rest would be just too stupid even for the GOP.



posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: xuenchen

Good to see you admitting that massive Republican voter suppression efforts paid off last night, Xuenchen!

You really are having an honest couple of days, thanking God for the Religious Right and the Tea Party and now this!

So much for your supposed non-partisan independence, eh?



Your continuous ad hominem attacks are fruitless and worthless.

Nothing left now.

But I'm not offended or hurt, so your efforts are a failure as usual.

The Dark Ages are here to stay !!!!






posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:41 PM
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They were elected by an angry populace. It's not so much people voted FOR the republicans as AGAINST the democrats. And it's because the the voting public feels disenfranchised from a political process they feel largely abandoned by. Also we have spend the last 6 years or so listening to the GOP talk about what a better job they could do. Well, now the ball is in their court and they have no more excuses not to actually do what they claim to do. So what do you think will happen in a couple years if things in fact, do NOT improve? Answer: you will see a voting public even more angry than we just saw. They have a chance now to do something for the country, if they choose to just ignore the average American and enrich the one percent and corporations, they will be swept from power the next election just like the democrats were. People are fed up with lies and a govt that doesn't represent them, it doesn't matter if it's dems or republicans in power.
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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

WOW....you Progressives honestly can't take responsibility for anything can you.

Here, let me help you.

Dawnstar "It is Bush's Fault" or "Macman, your just racist".


ACA was created and voted on all by the Dems. You guys own it.

Insurance rates have skyrocketed this year, and are set to rise drastically again next year.




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