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I have a 3 year old daughter too, and I would not let her be alone, unsupervised with a 19 year old guy BECAUSE they are all stupid and in these situations there is only enough blood flow to one head instead of both.
originally posted by: BanTv
originally posted by: L0125D
a reply to: BanTv
Interesting, indeed.
I stated both possibilities.
Is he not old enough to know that sex with a minor is a no-no?
I find him more accountable because
He's 19. She's 14
She's barely a teen and he can be considered an adult.
Gonna have to say it again.....
Whichever way it happened-
She is going to either feel guilty for *also* taking part in consensual sex with this 19 year old and if convicted he may serve jail time and be considered a rapist,
OR
She is a victim to this monstrous deed.
Yes, he is legally an adult and she isn't. That doesn't mean he's mentally an adult. My position is based on science and facts. His brain is still not fully developed. They are equally 'stupid kids' in my opinion. If he was 25+ I would agree with you.
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: L0125D
I have a 3 year old daughter too, and I would not let her be alone, unsupervised with a 19 year old guy BECAUSE they are all stupid and in these situations there is only enough blood flow to one head instead of both.
You're still not answering my questions.
Why do you feel that them having sex is "stupid?"
I never said them having sex was stupid. I said that they're both stupid. There's a law that says its illegal however.
Why should consensual sex ever be considered a crime?
If she's a minor and he's an adult? Because then we'd have a lot more 14 year olds without their "baby daddy" running around, and a lot more people trying to blur the lines based on their own "immoral" stances on the matter.
Why should I, or anyone else, be forced to prescribe to your sense of morality? Especially if I find your stance immoral? Not everyone believes that consensual sex is immoral.
I never said consensual sex is immoral. And I never said that anyone else should believe what I believe. I believe that sex with a minor when you're an adult is immoral. Different opinions I guess, and I am so glad that there is this law.
Why couldn't the parents have handled the situation without law enforcement having to be involved?
originally posted by: L0125D
a reply to: BanTv
No, I don't hate men at all actually. I have a loving father, 3 brothers and an awesome boyfriend/father to my child.
I believe he should be held accountable for his actions regardless if it was consensual or not. He'd know that having sex with a minor could eventually land him in hot water.
Like I said, he shouldve kept it in his pants.
14 year old girls these days are very impressionable with how they dress, act etc., and there is still a whole lot of growing up on their part.
As a victim of rape (from my bio-logical dad and my mom - which was NOT consensual by the way) yes, I have a lot of opinions on the matter. However, I do have an aunt that got pregnant at 16 from her much much older boyfriend. She could have screamed rape and put him in jail when the relationship grew sour, however she did not.
originally posted by: BanTv
originally posted by: L0125D
a reply to: BanTv
No, I don't hate men at all actually. I have a loving father, 3 brothers and an awesome boyfriend/father to my child.
I believe he should be held accountable for his actions regardless if it was consensual or not. He'd know that having sex with a minor could eventually land him in hot water.
Like I said, he shouldve kept it in his pants.
14 year old girls these days are very impressionable with how they dress, act etc., and there is still a whole lot of growing up on their part.
As a victim of rape (from my bio-logical dad and my mom - which was NOT consensual by the way) yes, I have a lot of opinions on the matter. However, I do have an aunt that got pregnant at 16 from her much much older boyfriend. She could have screamed rape and put him in jail when the relationship grew sour, however she did not.
Don't get me wrong, I completely understand where you're coming from and agree he should have been the one to say 'no way, not going there'. I guess it just irks me that 2 mentally immature people can have sex and one gets labeled a rapist. I just think rape (the kind everyone thinks of when they hear the word) is such a serious offense that consensual sex shouldn't be lumped into that category. In other words I think statutory rape should be called something else.
Also regarding her feelings...I think the point is that he has feelings too. He's going to be associated with people who molest young children (pre-pubescent), which is just not right.
originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: peter vlar
I do understand your point, I just have serious issues with the "blame the parent" statement, having such a bad time with my youngest son.
As far as what actually happened? My issue is this. He should have manned up. If it was consensual, then this whole thing could have been brought about by the girls parents. Unfortunately that happens too often, and completely ruins a young mans life.
Yes, he should have know better, with the age difference. But, with girls maturing faster than boys, you never know what happened. They could have been mad she was dating him, if that was the case.
I wish there was more information about this, and hopefully more will come.
I'm not claiming his is rapist. I'm not claiming it was consensual. There isn't enough to know.
If it was rape, he deserves to rot. If it was consensual, his life will be ruined, regardless of what he is charged with.
But as far as the mom? She did the right thing, and I wish more parents actually did.
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: L0125D
I'll ask questions one at a time.
Why do you feel that a 14 year old having sex with a 19 year old is "stupid?"
originally posted by: cado angelus
a reply to: TiedDestructor
I see - the issue is right in your post. 'Church.' No more need be said.
originally posted by: cado angelus
a reply to: WarminIndy
Nope. i didn't suggest that. I'm alluding to the great hypocritical nature of many religious folk and how you if you upset them they will launch at you, attacking with all guns blazing.
Not justifying anything - a mere comment.