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originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: SoEpic
Why is it always the same religion that causes problems and can't get on with others?
Why don't the Muslims who live in that area stop it?
because they don't care about anyone or anything but themselves, and Islam.
• The second-highest concentration of people designated as “known or suspected terrorists” by the government is in Dearborn, Mich.—a city of 96,000 that has the largest percentage of Arab-American residents in the country.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
This discussion is really still going even though it's a bulls# story, from a bulls# website, with a bulls# source to a police website & no story???
Bye!
Paradoxically, a Muslim author and human rights activist, Mudar Zahran, may have at least a partial answer.
Mudar Zahran, who lives in exile in Britain, recently carried out extensive interviews among the Muslim community in Sweden. He says the growing militancy of Muslim radicals in Sweden, particularly in Malmo, has radicalized a minority of the Muslim population to the point where moderate Muslims are intimidated into silence, thus advancing extremist goals, including fundamentalist policies within the general Muslim population.
According to Swedish police, “police cars that approach Arab and Muslim areas are regularly attacked with rocks.” Residents of an Arab-Muslim area in Uppsala described their neighbourhood as “Shariah areas where Sweden’s government is not welcome.”
originally posted by: nukedog
a reply to: AgentShillington
Maybe there is a call to Islam in Dearborn right now? Idk. I don't think census numbers are always accurate though. Probably getting better, but they have been proven to be manipulated iirc.
The only reason I don't dismiss it off handed is that Dearborn is one of the four cities in the United States with the largest number of people on no fly lists. That math indicates something. Let me see if I can find the thread
originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: NavyDoc
According to published numbers.
en.wikipedia.org...
There are 1,218 for every 100,000 people in Michigan.
Michigan has a population of about 9.9 million. Let's say 10 million for ease of math (it will even pad the numbers a bit).
So... 10m / 100k = 100.
100 x 1218 = 121,800 Muslims in michigan.
Now, for there to be 100,000 Muslims in Dearborn, that means that there are only 21,800 scattered throughout the rest of the state. The numbers dont add up, and that's not even taking into account that the news article from the National Report is satire.
www.huffingtonpost.com...
originally posted by: AgentShillington
a reply to: NavyDoc
Not vouching for the article, just defending it?
I don't get what you are after here.
In Sweden there are currently 55 geographic areas where local criminal networks is considered to have a negative impact on the local community . The areas are spread across 22 cities - from large cities to smaller towns and is considered to be socio- economically disadvantaged . The large criminal impact on the local community appears to be linked to the social context in the areas of , rather than a willingness by the criminals to take power and control of the local community .
The players can be roughly divided into a younger and an older layer which partly linked by kinship. The younger ones are usually loosely connected criminal networks centered around a few key people . Their crime is less complex and often consist of drug sales to level abuse , thefts and burglaries in the neighborhood. The elderly are more structured and are involved in more organized crime such as advanced thefts and organization of drug supply to the areas.
Frequently crime among local criminals in areas including open- group drug trafficking , criminal settlements which manifests itself in serious violence in a public place , various forms of extortion and unlawful influence and acting out grievances against society. All of the above expressions manifesting publicly critical Minell power and becomes a reminder of what the criminal actors are capable of. That along with the active pressure on the local community in the form of threats, blackmail and våldshandling- s is assumed to be the basis for the fear police believe exist in the local community . Fear manifests itself in that it is difficult to get people to participate in the process , litigation against local criminals.
Development in the areas has resulted in difficulties in investigating crimes . Police have in other respects difficult to work in these areas, including on the grounds that the environment reacts against the police intervention at or by attacking police vehicles.
Police difficulty in curbing the problems mentioned could be a contributing factor to the public in several cases, understands that it is the criminals that control in the areas of . Such a view can be contested role of the police as a guarantor of security, and ultimately reduce the public's tendency to turn to the police . The situation in these areas is of concern , and have in many cases led to the police not been able to fulfill its task.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
In Sweden there are currently 55 geographic areas where local criminal networks is considered to have a negative impact on the local community . The areas are spread across 22 cities - from large cities to smaller towns and is considered to be socio- economically disadvantaged . The large criminal impact on the local community appears to be linked to the social context in the areas of , rather than a willingness by the criminals to take power and control of the local community .
The players can be roughly divided into a younger and an older layer which partly linked by kinship. The younger ones are usually loosely connected criminal networks centered around a few key people . Their crime is less complex and often consist of drug sales to level abuse , thefts and burglaries in the neighborhood. The elderly are more structured and are involved in more organized crime such as advanced thefts and organization of drug supply to the areas.
Frequently crime among local criminals in areas including open- group drug trafficking , criminal settlements which manifests itself in serious violence in a public place , various forms of extortion and unlawful influence and acting out grievances against society. All of the above expressions manifesting publicly critical Minell power and becomes a reminder of what the criminal actors are capable of. That along with the active pressure on the local community in the form of threats, blackmail and våldshandling- s is assumed to be the basis for the fear police believe exist in the local community . Fear manifests itself in that it is difficult to get people to participate in the process , litigation against local criminals.
Development in the areas has resulted in difficulties in investigating crimes . Police have in other respects difficult to work in these areas, including on the grounds that the environment reacts against the police intervention at or by attacking police vehicles.
Police difficulty in curbing the problems mentioned could be a contributing factor to the public in several cases, understands that it is the criminals that control in the areas of . Such a view can be contested role of the police as a guarantor of security, and ultimately reduce the public's tendency to turn to the police . The situation in these areas is of concern , and have in many cases led to the police not been able to fulfill its task.
Page 1 - The Summary
It says nothing about ceding areas to Muslims.
It's says nothing about ceding the areas.
It's says nothing about Muslims.
It's a report saying that police find it difficult to work in these areas...
Like the Bronx, or Compton...
The OP narrative and the narrative of The a Daily Caller was bulls# on page 1 & it's bulls# now!
originally posted by: NavyDoc
I don't know about the posted source, but my in-laws are from south of Malmo and they say that this has been going on a while and getting steadily worse. At my last visit, they refused to go to certain areas of Malmo due to the animosity of the inhabitants and said that they were essentially "no Swedes allowed" areas.
They blamed it on their version of the PC crowd and the national desire to not appear prejudiced and to appear inclusive at all costs. There is a growing groundswell of resentment form many Swedes. You have to realize that the Swedes are largely non-religious and those who do go to church usually do it for baptisms, funerals, weddings, and Christmas only. Not a whole lot of strong religious feeling there. In addition, they are a very tolerant and free spirited people, especially where sexuality is concerned. A religious fanatical area where women are abused for wearing short skirts or people abused for drinking is an anathema to the average Swede but, OTOH, their belief in tolerance and diversity prevents them from taking action. Sweden is a lovely place with lovely people and if anyone here hasn't been, I highly recommend going for a visit.
originally posted by: ABeing
the immigrants being muslim is not the main concern here.