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Russia Seeking to Absorb East Ukrainian Rebels Into Armed Forces, Says Kiev

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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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Russia? Wow, there's a country that's brain-drained beyond belief.




posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

America is a beacon of education right?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Latin America likes us? We treat them as equals?

I'm sure Bolivia loves how we privatized their water.

nacla.org...’s-cautionary-tale

Argentina must love how we let a single hedge fund hold their entire nation hostage and even go so far as to capture their navy's flagship.

www.forbes.com... ential-plane/

I was gonna just keep going but there are a lot of of nations in Latin America.

How about this? Name a country in Latin America and I'll show you how we screwed them? I'm just curious if there is one we haven't screwed. You're great at your research, so if anyone can find one it'd be you.

Just to help you out, skip panama, Haiti, Nicaragua, puerto rico, guatemala, belize, dominican republic, cuba, mexico, Jamaica, Brazil, Ecuador, Venezuela, colombia. I already know those off the top of my head.

I'm sure it'll be a tiny tiny island somewhere or maybe Suriname or something.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

I know how you feel man. I could spend my entire life, every waking moment, battling the incredibly biased and one sided opinions I encounter on here and never have a break. How nice it must be to be so sure of ones viewpoints. I wonder what it's like to never concede a point even once. What must that utter and complete confidence be like? I guess I'll never know as I'm aware I'm a fallible human being with biases.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:18 AM
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originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

I know how you feel man. I could spend my entire life, every waking moment, battling the incredibly biased and one sided opinions I encounter on here and never have a break. How nice it must be to be so sure of ones viewpoints. I wonder what it's like to never concede a point even once. What must that utter and complete confidence be like? I guess I'll never know as I'm aware I'm a fallible human being with biases.


Ask Putin



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:29 AM
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I know how you feel man. I could spend my entire life, every waking moment, battling the incredibly biased and one sided opinions I encounter on here and never have a break.


Oh the irony in your comment is astounding.



How nice it must be to be so sure of ones viewpoints. I wonder what it's like to never concede a point even once.


Well you just described every member who is on the Putin bandwagon...Viva la Putin.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

I know how you feel man. I could spend my entire life, every waking moment, battling the incredibly biased and one sided opinions I encounter on here and never have a break. How nice it must be to be so sure of ones viewpoints. I wonder what it's like to never concede a point even once. What must that utter and complete confidence be like? I guess I'll never know as I'm aware I'm a fallible human being with biases.


Ask Putin


You must be masochistic to be obsessed with someone who you dislike so much to even want to spend most of the good time you have left on him. I bet you will regret it big time doing that once the other shoe drops.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:39 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

No response on the Latin America stuff? I suppose I'm derailing the thread by bringing it up?
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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:41 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Can you explain the irony to me? I don't see it.

What Putin bandwagon? Am I part of it for saying America's not perfect and it's nice to see at least one world leader standing up to the West?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: tavi45




Argentina must love how we let a single hedge fund hold their entire nation hostage and even go so far as to capture their navy's flagship.


So Argentina defaults debts and the people owed are trying to get that money and you see that as a problem, how?



I was gonna just keep going but there are a lot of of nations in Latin America.


Please do...because as soon as something happens in those countries and they need help who do they call...it isn't Russia now is it?



How about this? Name a country in Latin America and I'll show you how we screwed them?


How about this show me a Latin American country that we don't support with aid of some sort. Does RUssia send help to it's neighbors or Latin America, or does it just take what it wants from them?




Just to help you out, skip panama, Haiti, Nicaragua, puerto rico, guatemala, belize, dominican republic, cuba, mexico, Jamaica, Brazil, Ecuador, Venezuela, colombia. I already know those off the top of my head.


But aren't those Latin American countries, so why skip them as they get support in one way or another from the US...do they get support from Russia?

You paint Russia as this global helper yet it seems they don't do much helping around the world...why is that?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: tavi45




No response on the Latin America stuff? I suppose I'm derailing the thread by bringing it up?


Did I say that?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:57 AM
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Can you explain the irony to me? I don't see it.


Of course you don't.



What Putin bandwagon? Am I part of it for saying America's not perfect and it's nice to see at least one world leader standing up to the West?


So standing up to the west means invading and annexing the sovereign nation that is your neighbor. That's not standing up to anyone that is bullying because you got your ass on your shoulders and didn't want to pay the rent on your naval base.

And nobody has said America was perfect.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I altered my reply to about Latin Americato show xcathadra. I didn't mean to have you in there.

So you can't explain the irony? I know why you are saying it but I'd like it from your mouth. I'm curious what your assumptions are


So Russia just invaded and annexed territory because they're evil? Explain the reasons for this. Why didn't they do it earlier?

More importantly why is America allowed to invade places constantly for its geopolitical goals but Russia does it once and it's the most heinous act since Hitler?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 04:18 AM
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I noticed you skipped Bolivia. No opinion on that one? Too over the top evil to attempt to counter?


"So Argentina defaults debts and the people owed are trying to get that money and you see that as a problem, how? "

You obviously didn't read the article at all. Go read the article before you make such a silly statement. I'm well versed on this because it's one of the most ridiculous things that's happened in all of history and I was just appalled by how far our country has fallen.

"But aren't those Latin American countries, so why skip them as they get support in one way or another from the US."

They are countries we've screwed over. We do not support them. We use them. Again I reference you to the Bolivia story I linked. That is a great example.

"You paint Russia as this global helper yet it seems they don't do much helping around the world...why is that?"

I never painted Russia as a global helper. I've painted Russia as the only nation that stands against American hegemony (more accurately NWO control at this point but we'll leave conspiracy stuff out of it).

You on the other hand are just following the mainstream America helps everyone schtick. America is as self serving as any nation and has hurt more than its helped. If you're interested I could teach you how much we "helped" Latin America.

I'm just tired of the American Messiah complex.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 06:58 AM
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It seems Comarde Putin now embraces and condones the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. According to Putin it was Polands fault.

Russia: Putin Defends Soviet-Nazi Pact


President Vladimir V. Putin has revised his opinion of an important piece of Soviet history, calling the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that Moscow signed with Nazi Germany to divide up Eastern Europe not so bad. “The Soviet Union signed a nonaggression treaty with Germany,” Mr. Putin said during a meeting with historians on Wednesday, according to a Russian transcript of the meeting that the Kremlin released Thursday. “People say: ‘Ach, that’s bad.’ But what’s bad about that if the Soviet Union didn’t want to fight? What’s bad about it?” While the Soviet Union is accused of dividing Poland, he said, Poland actually seized part of Czechoslovakia when Germany attacked that country. “Serious research should show that those were the methods of foreign policy then,” Mr. Putin said. Five years ago he had called the very same pact “immoral.” The statement is likely to increase security concerns in Eastern European states, which have been jittery about Russia’s intentions ever since it seized Crimea in March. Mr. Putin signed a law in May mandating five years imprisonment for anyone convicted of trying to rehabilitate Nazism.



Back to Putin being out of touch with reality...

I also see he does not know his history since the treaty was more than jut a non aggression pact. It hand the USSR parts of Poland and the Baltic nations.
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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 07:25 AM
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If Kiev said that Elvis was coming back from the moon then CNN/BBC would print it.

You see its easy to do a photoshop on bits of paper but it's not so easy to fake a full on invasion like the BBC is banging on about today without any pictures what so ever.

They can read a newspaper from space today or even faked documents mentioned in this post but for some strange reason they cannot see 30 tanks plus trucks rolling across the border from Russia.

Kiev is getting little money from the west because they did not exterminate enough Russians in the east of the Ukraine and the sooner Russia steps in the better in my book but lets do away with grasping at straws like forcing down a plane from Latvia by saying its a Russian bomber trying to attack London.

if/when Russia invades the Ukraine to protect people in the east then we will all have little doubt about it




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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard
Anything in the way of facts to back up your claims?

Seriously... There are more NEO Nazis in the Russian Duma than there are in the Ukraine parliament.


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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

So no comments on America treating Latin America poorly? Just gonna ignore that entirely?

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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: tavi45

yes he will ignore they are not the commie he hate commie !



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: VirusGuard
Anything in the way of facts to back up your claims?
Seriously... There are more NEO Nazis in the Russian Duma than there are in the Ukraine parliament.


Yeah, well check this for size

Far right in Kiev

the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists

Even the states propaganda agent known as the BBC has a story on Nazi's in the Ukraine



Seriously... Putin is not a Nazi




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