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Recently, projections for world populations, and in particular US population for the year 2025 at Deagel.com have raised alarm. Projections for the US
population in 2025 at that site are down by 78.2 percent, to 69 million. Citing the drastic population decrease given there, many are fearing a
violent and intentional depopulation, most especially due to an Ebola pandemic.
Deagel themselves noted the alarm, and posted an explanation at the bottom of this page
is still there as of this writing. It has been saved for posterity (and to preclude it's disappearance from the internet) in
this post by phoenix9884
at ATS, with both screenshots and a transcript.
My initial analysis of that can be found here
. This thread is to expand
on that, and bring more minds into the discussion of the ramifications it presents.
Unfortunately, due to the ramped up fears of an Ebola pandemic, Deagel chose to use that potential as an example of how things can get out of hand due
to factors external to any actual event and intensify it, and predictably, perhaps, many seized upon that section of the explanation as evidence for
Deagel's advance knowledge of intentional depopulation via Ebola.
That's not what Deagel said, it's only how some folks chose to take it.
The Deagel explanation gave a number of intricately interwoven and mutually dependent factors which, combined, could lead to a cascade effect reducing
the population of the US, which is what their projection predicts. It used a potential Ebola pandemic as an example of how things could get out of
hand when those interdependent factors play off one another and combine to make things worse, but specifically said that no pandemics were factored in
to the projection.
In broad strokes, Deagel is predicting the migration of "western civilization" centers westward from the US into "the east", and southward into Latin
America. When people "follow the money" as they always have, that will serve to decrease certain "western" populations, while at the same time
eastern and southern ones, which that population is moving TO. That is how the US reached the population pinnacle it did - people
migrating to "here" from "there" in search of financial opportunity. It's not a surprise move, and certainly nothing new. Migrations are older than
Deagel posits that "western civilization" began around the Mediterranean, migrated northward into Europe, and when it had nearly stripped Europe,
westward to the Americas - now that it has nearly stripped North America, Deagel is predicting that it moves on westward and southward, like a horde
of ravaging locusts, moving on to where the pickings are better.
Evidence for a migration is already present, although not yet in the numbers that would result in such a drastic depopulation within the specified
time frame. There has been an upsurge in expatriations in recent years, enough to alarm the government. As of this past September, the US government
has raised the price of renouncing US citizenship by more than a factor of five fold, from 450 dollars to 2350 dollars, in an apparent attempt to stem
the hemorrhaging of money out of the US that goes along with the expatriations.
From 2001 to 2008, the US had 3937 expatriations. From January 2009 to June 30, 2014, the number had risen to 9566. Not a huge number, granted, but it
shows an escalating trend, from nearly 500 per year up to more than 2100 per year. The phrase "rats deserting a sinking ship" comes to mind, but it
seems that the government itself is blaming the exodus on Administration policies tightening the noose on people "hiding" money overseas - they have
netted 6 billion dollars in taxes and fees due to that noose-tightening effort so far, and evidently the folks with money are now giving their
Source for migration figures
there are more to be found by googling such terms as "expatriation".
With so-called "globalization", industry, money and finance have been steadily moving off shore (from a US perspective) for quite some time now, and
people are following it. It's that simple. Other countries are also projected to be hard hit with depopulation, although few if any as hard as the US.
Switzerland, the Scandinavian countries, and even the UK are projected to have drastic population decreases - in the case of the UK, 49 percent, the
others having worse numbers. Concurrently, Asian nations and Latin American nations are projected to increase populations, while the world overall has
a 200 million or so decline.
As the "money people" take the money - and the jobs - elsewhere, people will follow opportunity to wherever it alights.
Along with people leaving to follow the money, a potentiating factor will be the money itself leaving. As the economy spirals downward, there will be
less and less money to pay for things to sustain life - certain life extending drugs come to mind. What happens when a diabetic can no longer afford
insulin? A heart patient their nitro? What happens to health standards when competent physicians ALSO go follow the money, right out of the country?
An overall decline in American health along with an inevitable rise in the death rate of those who remain behind would serve to intensify the
depopulation, no Ebola necessary. Deagel projects that the US fall will be similar to the Soviet collapse, but harder, because we have farther to
fall. Many people here will simply not be able to adjust to the new harsher reality, and will die from that inability.
Remember reading about the "Irish Potato Famine" of the 1850's? Where did all those Irish go to keep from starving? that sort of depopulation is what
Deagel predicts - a drastic fall in some populations resulting in an increase in others via emigration, death and misery among those who remain.
While some may view the headline to this thread as sensationalist, I submit that such a drastic change in money and population patterns WOULD end the
world "as we know it", while at the same time presenting an entirely new world to deal with and get used to, a new face of the world to get to
edit on 2014/11/3 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)