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originally posted by: compressedFusion
a reply to: AgentShillington
I tried to choose my words carefully. I regret the hasty edit with the last quote because I wasn’t able to convey my point correctly regarding analysis. I believe that we should analyze the phenomenon of OBEs. It would be nice to see more study done on this topic in controlled conditions.
My comment about over-analyzing referred to reasoning of the OBE content (not the phenomenon). I mistakenly got the impression from your original request that you were not familiar with the subject of OBEs. I noticed that your analysis made several assumptions about the mechanics of an OBE and waking recall. I attempted to highlight this with my last quote.
it is our responsibility as a people to verify the validity of statements like the ones made by the OP. What do you think investigation is if not calculated judgements based on empirical research?
Should we as a people that investigate claims of paranormal activity simply take every persons story and experience as valid evidence of said activity?
I don’t have a good response for you. I wholeheartedly agree with your desire to investigate and pick things apart. I love doing this much to the consternation of my friends and family. I have been forced to find a balance.
I am confused about one point though. What scrutiny can a singular personal internal experience stand up to? Certainly there are clever experiments that can be devised, but this would be under controlled conditions and adjusted iteratively by data. I don’t think there is an equivalent set of clever questions that can ferret out data from the OP. Am I missing something?
it is hard to imagine that anyone within the realms of scientific inquiry are going to spend much in the way of grant money on what amounts to chasing unicorns,when that research money could be going to more worthwhile pursuits, like ALS research as an example
That's cool. Thank you for the reply.
originally posted by: Rainbowresidue
a reply to: Vageryn
I'm sorry, but I'd be lying if I told you I remember any more details about the dark skinned or the lighter skinned aliens I saw in the OBE.
The only things I clearly remember were:
How tall they were
And the difference in the 2 pairs skin.
originally posted by: kix
I had one OOBE, 10 years ago It scared the crap outa me...
I know it was because I floated to another floor on the same building and saw what was going on there, then I realized that got frightened and came back to my body, later I asked to guys upstairs if they had the conversation I saw and heard and they were pissed because they thought I was spying on them.... Creepy.
Thanks for sharing your experience
However, with all of the scientific study that has been done, and the increasingly large mountain of evidence against it's existence
it is hard to imagine that anyone within the realms of scientific inquiry are going to spend much in the way of grant money on what amounts to chasing unicorns, when that research money could be going to more worthwhile pursuits, like ALS research as an example.
originally posted by: JUhrman
The OP saw nuclear explosions, so it wasn't an OOBE.
Then they showed me what could happen if WWIII ever broke out, and I saw the nuclear explosion from space. It scared me so much I zapped right back into my body.
originally posted by: Xtraeme
I think what what the original poster was trying to say was that he had an OBE/LD and then inside of the OBE he was shown a vision.
originally posted by: Rainbowresidue
That was the only OBE I ever had with them.
I've had various visions, and my family has generations of seers, but this still shocked me to my core.