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Originally posted by slank
Does that mean that believing in God is a sign you are dying?
The reality is that most people 'change their views late in the game'.
QED Therefore to live forever you just have to stop believing in God!
Eureka! I have found it. The secret of the Universe.
(Well the other secret besides believing in the sacred Twinkie)
Originally posted by Simulacra
Anthony Flew is NOT leaving aethism
Antony Flew Leaving Atheism?
Have you read the news about Antony Flew abandoning atheism? This would be big news because Flew is one of the most prominent atheist philosophers of the 20th century. It would be big news, that is, if it were true. Evangelical Christians are all a twitter over the possibility, but as usual they are taking words out of context and misrepresenting them to suit their own religious prejudices.
And a word from the man himself:
'I remain still what I have been now for over fifty years, a negative atheist. By this I mean that I construe the initial letter in the word 'atheist' in the way in which everyone construes the same initial letter in such words as 'atypical' and 'amoral'. For I still believe that it is impossible either to verify or to falsify - to show to be false - what David Hume in his Dialogues concerning Natural Religion happily described as "the religious hypothesis." The more I contemplate the eschatological teachings of Christianity and Islam the more I wish I could demonstrate their falsity.
I can suggest only one possible source of the rumours. Several weeks ago I submitted to the Editor of Philo (The Journal of the Society of Humanist Philosophers) a short paper making two points which might well disturb atheists of the more positive kind. The point more relevant here was that it can be entirely rational for believers and negative atheists to respond in quite different ways to the same scientific developments. ...I recognize that developments in physics coming on the last twenty or thirty years can reasonably be seen as in some degree confirmatory of a previously faith-based belief in god, even though they still provide no sufficient reason for unbelievers to change their minds. They certainly have not persuaded me.'
Crazy Christians, disinformation is for the government!
A TODDLER'S TALE
One patient was 2-1/2 years old when he had a seizure and his heart stopped. His parents contacted Parnia after the boy ''drew a picture of himself as if out of his body looking down at himself. It was drawn like there was a balloon stuck to him. When they asked what the balloon was he said, 'When you die you see a bright light and you are connected to a cord.' He wasn't even 3 when had the experience,'' Parnia said.
``What his parents noticed was that after he had been discharged from hospital, six months after the incident, he kept drawing the same scene.''
The brain function these patients were found to have while unconscious is commonly believed to be incapable of sustaining lucid thought processes or allowing lasting memories to form, Parnia said -- pointing to the fact that nobody fully grasps how the brain generates thoughts.
The brain itself is made up of cells, like all the body's organs, and is not really capable of producing the subjective phenomenon of thought that people have, he said.
He speculated that human consciousness may work independently of the brain, using the gray matter as a mechanism to manifest the thoughts, just as a television set translates waves in the air into picture and sound.
``When you damage the brain or lose some of the aspects of mind or personality, that doesn't necessarily mean the mind is being produced by the brain. All it shows is that the apparatus is damaged,'' Parnia said, adding that further research might reveal the existence of a soul.
``When these people are having experiences they say, 'I had this intense pain in my chest and suddenly I was drifting in the corner of my room and I was so happy, so comfortable. I looked down and realized I was seeing my body and doctors all around me trying to save me and I didn't want to go back.
``The point is they are describing seeing this thing in the room, which is their body. Nobody ever says, 'I had this pain and the next thing I knew my soul left me.''
Originally posted by Voice_of Doom
Did he say which god he found?
Zeus? Zoraster? Quatzecoatl? Earth Mother? Anat? Hatshepsut?
Prometheus? Mithra? Shiva? Vishnu? Krishna? Thor? The Great Bear of the Americas? Venus? Poseidon?
or are we to assume that "god" always refers to the judeo-christian myth?
I like brainwashing...its good for me! Everyone sing along..."I like brainwashing, it's good for me!"
Feel free to make up the second verse yourself....wait, that kind of independant thinking is what caused problems in the first place.
GET BACK IN LINE!
Originally posted by Corinthas
Please note that allthough he now believes in God he believes in a uninvolved God who does not interfere with our world. He just believes in a "designer" not a "puppet master".
Originally posted by DeusEx
Most likely because it amuses us. It's like taking a five-hundred year step back in terms of rational thought. Is that something to be applauded?
Professor Antony Garrard Newton Flew (born February 11, 1923) is a British philosopher. For several decades, he was recognized as a prominent atheist. Yet in December 2004, he began expressing deist opinions. Read some of his thoughts about God on this interview.
Originally posted by slank
Maybe he now has alzheimers?
It makes it easier to forget the facts.
I think thier point was to point out the fundamental fact that this God he has 'found' is not the Christian God. Being that his statement was used as a justitifaction for Christians to exploit and propogate more propaganda --just as they do with Einstine.