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originally posted by: Willtell
Look at Chris Christies NJ
He ruins the schools and stops the raising of taxes for millionaires while schools get closed
The worst economy on the east
These "elite" are the same families and corporate entities that supported Hitler and the Nazis before and during WW2, then brought Nazis to America to be part of the elite entities, even creating a line of US Presidents (the 3rd of which will be elected in 2016).
Following the 1980 presidential election, Bush and his family moved to Miami-Dade County, Florida. He took a job in real estate with Armando Codina, a 32-year-old Cuban immigrant and self-made American millionaire. Codina had made a fortune in a computer business, and then formed a new company, The Codina Group, to pursue opportunities in real estate.[14] In 1983, Jeb Bush explained his move from Houston to Miami this way: “On the personal side, my mother-in-law and sister-in-law were already living here", and on the professional side, "I want to be very wealthy, and I'll be glad to tell you when I've accomplished that goal."
Codina served as chairman and CEO of Codina Group, a South Florida-based commercial real estate firm, which he founded in 1979. Under his leadership the firm grew to be Florida’s largest privately-held commercial real estate company.
While Bush's financial network is global, it is built largely around four powerful men:
codina
Armando Codina gave Bush 40 per cent of the profits from his real estate company.
[Times photo: Brian Baer]Armando Codina, a Coral Gables Cuban-American real estate investor who was one of George Bush's earliest supporters. He was so tight with the president that he gave Jeb Bush more than his first job in Florida. Codina put Bush's name on the company and gave him 40 percent of its profits.
originally posted by: Willtell
So the answer is to close the schools and instead give the money to profit making charter schools that do no better while the kids in public schools go without computers, books and teachers.
The economy in Jersey is the worst on the east coast even with the love the rich policies and all the cuts that Jersey has faced.
originally posted by: Willtell
“Rich policies” are when the politicians vote them tax cuts at the expense of the macro economy
Like Christie cut Medicaid
It’s amazing that people don’t understand that rich people, while they shouldn’t be abused or treated unfairly, should nonetheless pay their fair share
Why are you so interested in defending them unless you yourself are one of them?
And if you are then why do you need so much to live.
TRENTON, N.J. - During his inauguration in January 2010, Chris Christie cast New Jersey as a state poised to sprint out of the recession. “While the economic hour is dark, there are brighter days ahead,” the new Republican governor said at the Trenton War Memorial across the street from the statehouse. “We have the tools to win the battle for a better future.” By the end of his first term, economic indicators told a story of a state falling behind. Job growth in Christie’s first term was less than a third that of neighboring New York, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Pennsylvania outstripped the state’s 15 percent expansion in the value of goods and services produced by 4.4 percentage points. Adjusted for inflation, New Jersey’s median household income declined 12.2 percent, compared with a drop of 3.9 percent nationwide.
Christie, 52, has yet to rewrite that narrative, traveling around the country as chairman of the Republican Governors Association while he says he’s considering a run for the presidency. New Jersey’s lagging growth and swelling pension obligations have contributed to eight credit-rating downgrades, a record for a chief executive of the state. “New Jersey is certainly struggling,” said Michael Wolf, an economist at Wells Fargo Securities in Charlotte, North Carolina. “The big, big problem is just that the state isn’t adding jobs.” Nor is it raising taxes. Cutting them has been Republican dogma for decades, as party politicians contend that the U.S. economy is suffocated by excessive burdens on businesses and individuals. Increasing taxes is also anathema to Christie, who told Fox News Oct. 26 that he expects to announce early next year whether he’ll seek the Republican nomination in 2016.
originally posted by: Willtell
First of all just because I mentioned NJ doesn’t mean all of my points are referring to that state.
I also don’t know what you mean by wrong about taxes.
They tried to get Christie to approve a millionaire’s tax to fund certain programs and he refuses.
Its not class warfare when the rich get advantages that ordinary people don’t get
You don’t have to answer any personal questions of course but I am talking in the abstract and really don’t care one way or the other your economic condition.
The fact is that conservative policies in NJ and Kansas of cutting taxes and coddling the rich have been bad for those states period…
All you speak of is your selfish: like a big baby:
I DON’T WANT TO PAY ANY MORE TAXES
No one likes taxes but if you want fire protection, police, bridges, schools and other services to THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE TAXES!
Rich people leaching off the largess of society, workers the country educates, and then running off the China taking jobs from Americans and when the congress tries to stop that the GOP prevents it
… Reagan was not the man conservatives claim he was. This image of Reagan as a conservative superhero is myth, created to unite the various factions of the right behind a common leader. In reality, Reagan was no conservative ideologue or flawless commander-in-chief. Reagan regularly strayed from conservative dogma — he raised taxes eleven times as president while tripling the deficit — and he often ended up on the wrong side of history, like when he vetoed an Anti-Apartheid bill.
Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile, state spending nearly doubled. As president, Reagan “raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years. As former GOP Senator Alan Simpson, who called Reagan “a dear friend,” told NPR, “Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration — I was there.” “Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes,” said historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan’s memoir. Reagan the anti-tax zealot is “false mythology,” Brinkley said.
2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.” Reagan enacted a major tax cut his first year in office and government revenue dropped off precipitously. Despite the conservative myth that tax cuts somehow increase revenue, the government went deeper into debt and Reagan had to raise taxes just a year after he enacted his tax cut. Despite ten more tax hikes on everything from gasoline to corporate income, Reagan was never able to get the deficit under control.
3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded. Despite the myth that Reagan presided over an era of unmatched economic boom for all Americans, Reagan disproportionately taxed the poor and middle class, but the economic growth of the 1980′s did little help them. “Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled,” the New York Times’ David Leonhardt noted.
That is what I mean by wrong about taxes. You said he cut taxes for the rich. He did not cut taxes for them, he refused to raise them, which is two completely different things
Look at Chris Christies NJ He ruins the schools and stops the raising of taxes for millionaires while schools get closed
The controversial plan by the Christie administration to close, transfer to charters, or otherwise “repurpose” nearly half of the city’s public schools is illegal and must stop, according to the Education Law Center (ELC). The scheme, dubbed “One Newark,” has sparked widespread demonstrations and open hostility among city residents directed against state-appointed superintendent Cami Anderson.
originally posted by: Willtell
Here’s the deal folks:
What we can call: The Raw Deal
The American economy in the 50’s 60’s and 70's, because of FDR policies from the new deal, unionism, sane trade policies, and the burgeoning economy fueled by a 90 percent tax rate on the rich, caused a great movement into the middle class by millions of Americans.
This middle class produced the radicalism and liberalism of the 60’s that for a time increased the wealth being shared and further enhanced the raising of poverty. This was primarily done by what is mentioned above, President Johnson’s civil rights initiatives, and other Great society programs that helped the poor.
Then what happened was a backlash by the reactionary classes of the conservative rich.
What they realized ( some big shot conservative wrote a book) was that the bigger the middle class became the more progressivism and liberalism came about that raised the poor into the middle class and was responsible for the economic fairness that existed in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s.
They understood that revolutions, great economic changes, and society uplift come about NOT BY THE POOR CLASS rebelling against their poverty but by the middle class.
Something had to be done to halt this growth…
They reacted to this by deliberately creating the new conservative movement that was ultimately responsible (Ronald Reagan type policies of severely cutting taxes for the rich) for the economic decline we see today: TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS.
IT WAS A DELIBERATE POLICY!
If one follows the great economic growth of America after WWII they will clearly see that it was the tax rates, the trade policy (protectionism) and what unionism did for the middle class that fueled this great growth that no longer exists.
The idea that it can happen again through MORE severe trickle down policies (the GOP will surely try to do) is a pipe dream.
The only way back is to do three things immediately (something neither the Democrats of GOP will ever do now because they are ALL bought and paid for by the elite wealthy) amongst other thing of course:
First: Get the trade policy back to the protectionism is was( protecting US jobs) in past years
Two: Raise the tax rate of the rich to where it was in the 50’s and 60’s.
Three: Bring back the Glass–Steagall act that separated investment banking from ordinary savings and loan commercial banks.
Only then will the economy start returning to growth.
originally posted by: Willtell
I think you should check out what you write and read more carefully what I post
I don’t recall I posted that Christie raised taxes on the rich I SAID HE WOULDN’T RAISE TAXES ON THEM..
The economy in Jersey is the worst on the east coast even with the love the rich policies and all the cuts that Jersey has faced.