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The Spirit is the outpouring of the Father into us, the mother aka the virgin bride, Mary means Rebellion btw. When the time has come and we reach the House of Bread, the Son is born. The son then becomes the life giving Spirit, aka the generative principle. Giving life to others as a male/spirit, instead of just receiving life as a female/soul.
"the first man adam became a living soul, (when the spirit/male was blown into the earth/female) the last man christ became a life giving Spirit (when the spirit was blown into the dead body of earth/adam)"
"Now The Lord(Jesus) is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty(from death/rebellion)"
originally posted by: Rex282
Cut out all the mysticism and spiritual conjecture and …yes..the son is the seed of the creator God the Father (Yahweh) that was “sown into the “soil”(earth..material realm) which is Yahoshua(Yahweh IS salvation/deliverance)….and…that’s it…..that is all that can be known.All the religion and mysticism is just conjecture to try to describe something that isn’t and can’t be known.
The scriptures sole purpose is to be a testimony of Yahoshua that testifies of the Truth…the “coming” of the Kingdom of the creator God realm (which has not come yet nor is it here).Yahoshua clearly stated his Kingdom (which is the Fathers) is NOT of this world/age/realm.
The Kingdom of the creator God is the realm of LIFE it is not the realm of the “valley of the shadow of death”(the material realm).The material realm is the “womb” where the seed of the Father the creator God was sown.Everything in it is being conceived and NOTHING (except Yahoshua) has been born out of it into the kingdom of the creator God.
Yahweh is the creator God the Father they are Elohim.There is only ONE creator God and ONE son (seed) of the creator God.Yahoshua clearly stated I and the Father are ONE.Yahoshua “proceeds from the father as the seed.The seed produces LIFE(Spirit) the life man lives is the spirit of man which will die.The Life the creator God produces from the seed cannot die it is ONLY Life just as the Father is Life(Spirit).
All of mankind will die(all in Adam die) and ALL of mankind will live through the seed of the second Adam because ALL will live through Yahoshua(the creator God is deliverance). All men when they die will be in the realm of death and be DEAD.(unless a seed die it cannot produce fruit). The seed will grow (stand up..which means resurrect)out of the soil into a good plant that produces more fruit and so on and so on.
Salvation/deliverance is the process of Life.The material realm is only the soil/womb/matrix.ALL of mankind WILL be delivered from the realm of death and eventually enter into the realm of Life.THAT is the GOOD news and that is ALL Yahoshua(and the disciples) proclaimed and nothing less or more.Everything else is just religion or mysticism.
The Israelites and later the Jews did not “know” Yahweh.They wrote their distorted perception of Yahweh and made them into their image just as all of mankind does through their personal Belief System religion..that is mankind's nature…to “believe” their OWN religion. Fortunately(for ALL of mankind) none of it is Truth.If it is everyone is in for literally an infinity of hell their vain imagination has never even thought of with such and insane heinous monster as "their God".
Whatever mans thoughts in their religious carnal mind of the creator God are…they are exactly what the creator God isn’t because the fact is the creator God can not be “known” while living in the valley of the shadow of death because it is an impenetrable veil.The creator God can only be known by what they are doing..Yahoshua….THAT is what it means to “know Yahoshua”….this fantasy creature with long hair and a beard that the majority of people “imagine” in their mind is not Yahoshua it is Jesus the man of 'their" history.
The man “Jesus” is NEVER coming “back” to the planet earth to set up an earthly Kingdom where people will “worship” him like a tyrant or he will kick their ass like he will “slaughter" the majority of mankind for not “believing in him or whatever religious fantasy someone believes.It should be obvious there is NO version of “Jesus” that is true.He wasn’t just a “good man” who ascended because he “knew mystical stuff” and everyone will be like him if they do such and such method…or any other religious or mystical fantasy.
Yahoshua clearly told the disciples I will NEVER leave you and Yahoshua never has left because Yahoshua was the SEED sown in the material realm that ALL LIFE is “being” conceived by.The Jews await their conquering messiah to setup and Earthly kingdom and they are the “Kings” chosen people.The Christians await the same thing with their multitude of variations as do the Muslims with their variation..the fact is that is NEVER going to happen.The material universe is soil where Life is conceived. Everything dies in it…it is a kingdom of death.
There is only one thing that can be known of the Kingdom of Life..the “process" of salvation is happening right now(and is not even close to completion).None has caused ANY of it to happen to themselves in the same way none caused their conception nor growth in the womb of their mother.Everything from the seed to the deliverance was something that “happened” to you not “caused” by you…the same “process of the conception of life ” is happening now TO you not “by” you.There is NOTHING anyone can do to “cause” their salvation(conception to deliverance to Life).
Everyones purpose in the womb is to “live” in the womb.There is nothing more that you can do.However it is an absolute you will also die in the womb and then eventually be delivered OUT of it and “into” Life.It can be no other way.The creator God is causing it all and the creator can only cause LIFE no matter what mankinds skewered perception of that Life (and this life /death) ..
The scriptures are true(the bible is not the scriptures) however the only are a testimony that testifies of Yahoshua.They do not “cause anything.They are NOT the word(the seed) of the creator God Yahoshua is.Just because it is a testimony it doesn’t mean everything “written” in it is truth.The Israelites and Jews perception of Yahweh was not the truth at all and Israel is the archetype of ALL of mankind.Israel means struggles with the creator God(called Elhoim..El).That is truly mankind’s nature and character(name) fortunately for ALL of mankind it will not always be so.
All of mankind will receive a “new nature and character” which is absolutely inconceivable and it has never even entered into the mind of man.It will ALL be accomplished by and through Yahoshua.That’s the very Good News.