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originally posted by: nukedog
We are all very aware of the fact that the swastika spanned ages and continents. At least I hope so. I don't think you can use that as an excuse to rock it though.
originally posted by: Grovit
originally posted by: nukedog
We are all very aware of the fact that the swastika spanned ages and continents. At least I hope so. I don't think you can use that as an excuse to rock it though.
i dont rock the swastika.
i have anarchy symbols on my knucks....
i wouldnt rock the swastika....
thats not the type of thing i would think to teach my kid about....if it was brought up though i would tell them what i know....then i would tell them that even though the swastika has been around a long time when people see it they really only associate it was 1 thing/group.
i wouldnt lie to them about it and that ^^^is the truth.
originally posted by: nukedog
I agree. I'm going to have a transparent government with my child as well lol.
I read you had anarchy tats and didn't mean to imply you rock swastikas.
However I find contention with people that want to rock them when they know damn well what they are promoting.
originally posted by: Grovit
hey warminindy.......
i apologize for being an asshole....
i get cranked up sometimes......
originally posted by: Grovit
Some modern Christians consider the Devil to be an angel who, along with one-third of the angelic host (the demons) rebelled against God and has consequently been condemned to the Lake of Fire. He is described as hating all humanity (or more accurately creation), opposing God, spreading lies and wreaking havoc on the souls of mankind.
en.wikipedia.org...
people believe this????
everything i read about religion leads me to questions and the answer is always, its BS..
god created all things....he is all knowing..etc etc...
he didnt know an angel was going to rebel?
even though the devil is responsible for all the evil in the world, all god does is condemn him to the lake of fire.....
would a loving god not go a little further to 'protect his children/creation'
so many holes in these stories.....
none of it adds up yet a huge chunk of the world thinks its true.....
its a wonder humanity has made it as far as we have...i attribute that to the chunk of the world that does not believe in this crap...
originally posted by: WarminIndy
PhoenixOD
Except that bad guy wasn't just written about in the Bible. Satan isn't a proper name anyway, it merely means "enemy" or "adversary".
If you are talking about a red suited, horned tail, two horned guy with a goatee, then that's from the Middle Ages, written by Dante. But if you are talking about a spiritual entity that dwells in the negative and dark corners of the nothingness and promotes evil in the world and influences humans to think he doesn't exist, then that one has indeed been written about long before Christianity. In Zoroastrianism he was Ahriman, for Buddhists is Māra, for Norse he is Nidhogg.
Whether or not you believe in God makes little difference, the point is that there is a spiritual realm that consists of both good and evil and there are people who are invoking the evil to come to them. You don't need a Bible to do that, all you need is to recognize there is a spiritual realm.
originally posted by: WarminIndy
PhoenixOD
Except that bad guy wasn't just written about in the Bible. Satan isn't a proper name anyway, it merely means "enemy" or "adversary".
If you are talking about a red suited, horned tail, two horned guy with a goatee, then that's from the Middle Ages, written by Dante. But if you are talking about a spiritual entity that dwells in the negative and dark corners of the nothingness and promotes evil in the world and influences humans to think he doesn't exist, then that one has indeed been written about long before Christianity. In Zoroastrianism he was Ahriman, for Buddhists is Māra, for Norse he is Nidhogg.
Whether or not you believe in God makes little difference, the point is that there is a spiritual realm that consists of both good and evil and there are people who are invoking the evil to come to them. You don't need a Bible to do that, all you need is to recognize there is a spiritual realm.
originally posted by: nukedog
a reply to: Gryphon66
There is something evil out there. No way around it. Call it what you want.
I would agree that Satan is precisely a cultural artifact though.
originally posted by: nukedog
a reply to: Tangerine
He doesn't have any cases. He has hearsay. Frightening enough in it's own right. Why wouldn't you be adverse to that kind of thing? Child molestation happens all across the board by a certain denominator of humans. Ritualistic sacrifice is only speculated as happening with a certain denominator of humans. I know it happens. I would be loathe to google you a link of actual confirmed cases. Suffice it to say it has happened and if you want to go looking google mexican drug cartels and witch craft. We only see the tip of the iceburg because it is so revolting the media has to drop it like it's radioactive. Everyone's first instinct is to run away and deny the likelihood.
So sad. The fact of the matter is, if you follow any of this stuff you have been duped by some very sick depraved psychopaths