Democrats threatening Democrats into going to the polls

Here's something I noticed on the GOP "threatening" letter (LOL) - Check it out... Source

the ad includes an arial view of a neighborhood with checkmarks indicating that “These People Voted GOP.”

These people voted GOP??? How do they know HOW these people voted?

Here's the picture. As you can see, the "These People Voted" button says that these people voted, which is a matter of public record. The little red "GOP" on the button is (I believe) intended to create the impression that they know HOW those people voted, and to pressure their neighbors into voting the same way! When all it's really doing is saying that this message is brought to you by the GOP. The GOP WANTS people to think that these people voted Republican but unless the GOP has committed a felony, they don't know HOW the people voted. Only that they did. And if someone complains about it, they can say, "That's little red GOP is just saying that this message is brought to you by the GOP". Talk about intimidation! LOL

The GOP machine thinks nothing of lying to their voter base to get more votes.

a reply to: grandmakdw

Vote or we'll kick your ass

I just saw your thread here - I know I'm late to the debate - but.....

HOW is this any different than saying 'Tithe or You'll Go Straight To Hell!' ?

Pot, this is Kettle. Speed-date!

a reply to: kaylaluv

There has always been a small group on this site that spews out these liberal/democrat/progressive-bashing threads, using obviously distorted, out-of-context, and outright false information. There are a couple of people who I believe have made it their life mission. To be fair, I have seen a few of the same type of conservative-bashing threads from the more left-leaning, but honestly, not nearly as many.

If you look at this at the national level - it's not hard to see how it's managed to deprive this country of a working balance - of intelligent discussion - of cooperation - compromise - all of it

Sucks - but the only alternative is to play the same game the same way. To me that end of it is twice as depressing and demoralizing. The political ads (in my state at least) have proven that a hundred times over

This is politics in America these days. There are kids running for student council that are running cleaner, more honest and honorable campaigns than grown men and women at the state and national level

Oh, yay

Edit, because I realized - it's not really the only alternative - but, oh well. Personally - I'm counting on sarcasm to save us in 2016

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Blah Blah - find more information about the candidates (candidates - not just Dems) here...more local stuff...polls are open til 7:00 etc., etc...

LOL LOLOL!!!!

At first I thought that's actually what it said! lol. Wouldn't surpise me a bit.
What a bunch of DBs.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

The political ads (in my state at least) have proven that a hundred times over

Ugh. My snail-mail box is STUFFED with slick half-page card-stock full-color ads
EVERY
BLEEDING
DAY

"This guy's a jerk!"
"No! HE is, I'M not!"

Ad infinitum. I asked my 23-yo son the other day if he was going to vote. He answered very candidly:

No, I'm not. I've done my homework, and it's obvious to me that none of it applies to me. I just don't care.

This bothered me. I said I understood, though - because how can we expect the millenials and their older siblings to care, when Capitol Hill is SUCH A JOKE?!!!!

It's WORSE than "reality tv" - (fake, as we know, and real people, as we know - but FAR more boring).
I think millions of Americans are just over it.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

No, I'm not. I've done my homework, and it's obvious to me that none of it applies to me. I just don't care.

This year - I almost joined him. This two party hate fest finally almost got to me. You have to wonder how different this country might be if it weren't for - I want to say apathy, but I think these days it's closer to angst or despair

What we just went through these past 6 years (and no - I'm not talking about the presidency) proves that some people play a little fast and loose with this idea of patriotism - and national unity. It's us or them here in these United States of America

There have been times when I didn't - on purpose, not just out of apathy. But - I just voted - dropped of my ballot 2 days ago. I probably always will from now on. I usually prefer going to the polls - I like hearing the peeps talk while we're waiting in line - I love getting into some of those conversations - and it just feels more like I'm part of the process. There was one year recently that I couldn't make it to the polls in time due to extenuating circumstances - that one hurt because I really wanted to vote

But, I must confess - I absolutely still believe that not voting is still a vote. Especially these days. Your non vote gets counted - there are people that want that vote, and there are other people going to a great deal of trouble to figure out why you don't vote

So, yeah - it all counts - maybe the non-vote ultimately most of all

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Wait... what are people being "threatened" with?

If you take JUST the quotes from the letter, it's not "threatening" at all. It seems the New York State Democratic Committee wants to find out why people aren't voting... maybe in an effort to make voting worth their while...

“Who you vote for is your secret. But whether or not you vote is public record,” the letter says.

“We will be reviewing voting records . . . to determine whether you joined your neighbors who voted in 2014.”

“If you do not vote this year, we will be interested to hear why not.”

I wonder why they didn't include the entire letter... Here it is:

Letter

If you sign up with an organization like a political party, the information is not private.

Again, what's the threat?

They're putting it in your face that they're IN YOUR FACE, YOUR SPACE, THEY HAVE EYES ALL AROUND. It might not be threatening but it's offensive. People are sick of being watched every move they make. It would piss me off if I got that letter, wouldn't it you?

The issue is (and I'm aware of the irony there) that if you do run a clean campaign, stick to the facts, discuss the issues as a Democrat, you can absolutely count on your opponent doing the absolute opposite. Facts are not always interesting, attention-grabbers, and sadly, only occasionally does the simple truth stir more emotion than overt lies.

I'd say that's been the problem in the last 20 years. Democrats tried to stay focused on reality, while Republicans created these easily consumable, learned by rote scenarios that have taken hold in this country. To even start to tell the truth at this point, you have to descend into the lies.

(Now, given all that, politics is politics and all Democrats everywhere are not shining models of integrity ... )

Both sides would have to stop. Both sides would have to say, look, we're destroying our country, we're shooting across the gully like the Hatfields and McCoys, and nothing is getting done. Let's stop, regroup, and at least work for the good of the country as a whole rather than our own, narrow, splinter.

*wakes up*

"Guys, I just had the most awesome dream ... "

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

That might scare Democrats more than Republicans !!!

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

But, I must confess - I absolutely still believe that not voting is still a vote. Especially these days. Your non vote gets counted - there are people that want that vote, and there are other people going to a great deal of trouble to figure out why you don't vote

So, yeah - it all counts - maybe the non-vote ultimately most of all

Yes. ESPECIALLY if the person actually casts a ballot that says "None of The Above - You All Suck. I WAS HERE."

That's what Mr Wigs and I are intending on doing. I think.

a reply to: StoutBroux

It would piss me off if I got that letter, wouldn't it you?

I did, and I wasn't upset at all

Your vote is private - the fact that you voted is public knowledge. The conservatives are having a field day with the whole voter ID thing - so, I have to ask - are you kidding me with this? :-)

(I know you're not)

a reply to: Gryphon66

Nothing I can add to that

It's a shame that we crossed that line

Like I said - if we have to go negative - I think we can use an appropriate amount of sarcasm and then let the facts speak for themselves

a reply to: butcherguy

So even in your example ensure sounds more threatening, the threat of the future depending on the homework.
Where are the disappointment does not imply a failed future.

But again, over analyzing, the message is the same so if one is a threat the other has to be seen as one too.

a reply to: StoutBroux

I wanted to add - StoutBroux - I have no idea whether or not you support the Voter ID movement - or if you're even a conservative

So, there is that :-)

I think it's funny how we're so concerned about privacy in this country - not just about things which are genuinely private, but even about those things which are obviously public

I see the Stockholm Syndrome is operable in things other than Patty Hearst. People love and defend their captors.
On another note, sounds like they might be threatening their union base.... which has been in the past literally run by the mafia. Teamsters was notorious for mafia involvement.
Incidentally, I was out campaigning for someone local, and one lady who came to the door said that she was a teacher and "we have been discussing who we want to vote for".... a classic example of the hive mind, the teachers unions will vote collectively.

It was so obvious to me she/they had probably decided long before I came to their door as the unions always go for the Progressives in any race.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I've noticed a distinct reduction in the quality of the argumentation we're getting from our friends on the Right these days ... you think they're just losing interest in their spiel?

No, it's because it's obvious nothing any of us says will change your mind. It's really an exercise in futility. I see you are reaching out to your neighbors though.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Republicans are notorious for not going to the polls. Even in races which are considered non-partisan. People told one our people running for city commissioner that they were sorry they didn't come out to vote for him, that they just thought their vote wouldn't matter.
So that's what that is about.
Democrats, another story lately. But maybe they have to try a new avenue for strong-arming people who only voted for someone because it broke the glass ceiling.
I am not sure that when Hillary runs it will have the same effect, especially if she keeps using that stupid fake Southern accent. She just sounds like a drunken parrot when she does that.

a reply to: phishfriar47
A typical strategy Phish, they will say you misrepresented facts, you lied, you made stuff up, that your reading comprehension is bad, that you are changing the subject, or whatever else they can dig up, and then when that doesn't work they will resort to suggesting that you went to the wrong college, or that you went to no college, or that you went to too many different colleges, or that you think you are too intellectual(when they clearly can see their victim is not) and on and on.
Grab some caramel popcorn and have some fun.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Kali74

Let's try again, Kali ...

GOP To Iowans: Your Neighbors Will Know If You Don’t Vote Republicans

That's rich that ThinkProgress is telling people that the GOP is trying to fake people out by making them think the GOP Superspies will know how they voted, when it's always been the Unions who are doing that.
Here's an example of what current Democrat leadership is about:

Obama said his first priority is to pass the "employee fair choice act". This bill (S. 1041/H.R. 800) is anything but fair. The bill shifts individual rights away from the employee and towards the union bosses. The bill will take away an employees right to a federally supervised secret ballot when deciding whether or not to join a union. This secret ballot process will be replaced by a "card check" system. When enough employees are strong armed and threatened by union bosses to sign the card. The right of the employee would effectively be stolen by the very people that desire to represent them. This is another socialist value. Take away the rights of the individual and provide it to the collective.

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originally posted by: Kali74
I'm beginning to wonder if right-wingers even read.
Reading comprehension can't possibly be this bad and so widespread.

Cheapest shot ever on the Internet!!!!! Amusing in an odd sort of way.
I'm speechless you came up with such a golden nugget!
Ha! I even posted about people using this to subject others to ridicule before I saw your post.