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Russia does not war, nor does she fear it.

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posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 04:02 AM
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a reply to: ExSmokerYes

In a nutshell, yes. But the crazies that run the show have their own bunkers, its not like they risking their own lives. So they don't care of 2/3 the world dies. They probably think that be a good thing.




posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 04:06 AM
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Well its a shame Russia couldn't be a true beacon of the collective ideals of humanity. They, he (Putin)/she (Russia) just isn't that. Well at least he acknowledges that.

I'm all for seeing the naked emperor behind the curtain, not because I'm a pervert but because I know the emperor is naughty, very naughty back there.

Do I think Russia is remotely capable of stopping this crazy war machine? I have no idea, I doubt it but at least they're willing to call a spade a spade.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 04:07 AM
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"Someone need to fight the NWO why not putin".... my own words from a few months ago ringing in my head.... Yeah... Them ugly numbskulls are really lumping themselves.... I think putin really likes to feel like a law maker in an unlawful world... Well... Maybe he is but at the end of the day you cant enforce a law againt someone whos got more guns and influence than you...

And then theres the little people... Something tells me all this is designed to make us little people feel even tinier... All i can say is dont do it Putin... That dog will bite...



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 04:32 AM
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a reply to: funkadeliaaaa

Putin isn't gonna do anything. He's warning America not to keep going. He's drawn the line in the sand. If you wanna equate America with a dog, then America is a rabid one. Putin will put it down if need be. America has the weapons but we also don't tolerate war well. We wouldn't fight either world war until forced to. We won't fight WW3 as the new Axis. You can't win a war with technology alone, unless they have way better toys than anyone's imagined.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 04:33 AM
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a reply to: TheProphetMark

It is not often i sit up and really take notice of a reply to a post , usually where i can , i try to bring some levity to the post .But you really have me thinking . How do we as a community of 300,00 bring about real change . I know my workmate just grins when i mention ATS . He has even said (jokingly i hope ) does that mean we are going to be followed by the MIB . That is what i would perceive to be the problem right there . From the outside ATS might be just another crackpot website . It is not why i am here , i believe that every member has something positive to contribute . But how do we go from here to being a voice that will be heard even locally let alone worldwide . Very interested to hear your thoughts .



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 04:48 AM
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a reply to: hutch622

We don't. We just vent on here. We don't take action



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 04:52 AM
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a reply to: tavi45

Perhaps thats the problem right there .Not just here but worldwide .



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: glend

I can't find the speech. Now, certainly, a speech made by Putin of such importance would appear on the official webpage of the Russian President. Which even has a special link "Speeches and transcripts". The last formal speech Putin made was on December 12th, 2013, the annual Presidential Speech to the Federal Assembly. Of course, the man has spoken in public many times since then, but in as far as I can see always in the context of a summit, a conference or a meeting with some chief-of-something.

So, before I can even begin to be able to deny ignorance here - SOURCE, please?

SOURCE to me is an official Russian government website. I'd settle for three or more less trustworthy sources; if a president of a nation like Russia holds a formal speech I think they should be available. So they should be something like an international press agency.

Anybody can just simply write anything in here and off we go waisting a lot of time discussing it.

BTW: If you had written "This is my personal opinion on how Russia should act" I'd be content too and might even discuss it - but you did not.
edit on 31-10-2014 by ForteanOrg because: likes the line that says 'edited by' and wants it under all his postings.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg


I can't find the speech.


Enjoy it!

Putin's speech at the Valdai Club - full transcript


You may remember the wonderful saying: Whatever Jupiter is allowed, the Ox is not. We cannot agree with such an approach. The ox may not be allowed something, but the bear will not even bother to ask permission.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 06:27 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: glend

putin should have finished that with ...

10. so stick that in your pipe and smoke it


I was thinking his speech was better in the original form.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 06:30 AM
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originally posted by: TheProphetMark
You know I never took John Titor seriously in the past ..............


If a man is convinced he is going to die tomorrow he will find a way to do it.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: glend

Well who controls the media? TBTP and whether they admit it or not, they don't always know what's best for Humanity because they don't take in account how the simplest things can effect and change people or do they? Because to me, everything seems to be playing out accordingly to biblical Prophecies when you look at the bigger picture.

Truthfully I have thought about it several times to make a thread titled 'A Message to TPTB' to confront these revelations.

People create without thinking about the consequences of what it is they are creating and to name a few of things thing; I'm talking about the consequences and influence of the likes of technology, facebook, cellphones, porn, music and what's worse is that cell phones have finally allowed us to have all these things combined and now we over indulge in them and that is another problem which I'll save for another thread for another day. To put it quite simply, all of these things has resulted in this verse and revelation given by Jesus Christ.


Timothy 3:2-7

For Men will be shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, truce breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasure more then lovers of God; having the form of godliness, but denying the power thereof; from such turn away.


Ever get annoying with how many selfies you see people take on Facebook? That's lovers of selves. It's EVERYWHERE today. There are a multitude of things out there that's influencing us without us even realizing it, and because we allowed these things in our life it is our responsibility to take notice of it and do something about it before it's too late. People need to realize these things and wake up rather then continue be ignorant of them or it's going to be our downfall.

I believe you when you talk of your vision. I too have had some weird experience this last month, at one point I was even convinced that I was in a competition to become a Prophet, there were too many coincidence at the time for me to not believe so, almost as if God was trying tell me something. I have always felt like I was here for a reason, but now I realize we are all here for a reason. The holy spirit speaks to those who listens, some more then others but because I choose sin over responsibility it doesn't speak to me in the way they would Prophets like yourself.

We can all perform the same miracles that Jesus Christ did and it is said that many will perform miracles during the end of times, even bigger works then Christ ever had the chance to do.

The world may very well be on the path to hell but why give up? Sure it's the easy thing to do, because we expect Jesus Christ to come in and save the day but Humanity's real purpose is to establish the same kingdom God has in heaven right here on Earth ourselves. God literally wants us to defeat Satan at his own game, and right now he is winning. (Spoken to me by the holy spirit).

I don't consider myself a prophet, for I will not lie and become a false Prophet for my own selfish motivation reasons of which I don't have any since I'm not motivated by anything anymore. I promise you all this, even if my life depends on it; I'm willing to prophesy for Jesus Christ and his Father and be a vessel for the word of God if I'm ever deem worthy in their eyes but in my eyes I'm not even close.

But I will tell you this, we are the Generation that will meet the Messiah and that's a bloodshed I would like to avoid, because like I said, as well as the Prophet Edger Cayce - Humanity can change the outcome with our free will.
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posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: maghun

Having just read the entire Valdai Club speech over 2 cups of strong coffee, I failed to find the comments listed in the OP's list.

Perhaps another member can pick out the relevant bits for me.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: hutch622

I'm glad you decided to post.

You shouldn't worry about what your workmate thinks of ATS, just remember what I said about not letting anyone ridicule you for what you believe in.

You asked a good question. How as a Community of will we be able to bring about a real change? There's no Community without Unity so we do it together.

I do have some ideas, but it'll take some time for me to get around to make a thread on it to jump start it with an idea I have. I thought about using both Youtube and Facebook which are two of the best ways to make something go viral. Why limit ourselves to ATS when we can go bigger? Look what 4chan accomplished with Anonymous.

Once the thread get's going, we can have a competition to have some of the most creative people on ATS to put together a video of all the best material, and there will be tons of material - I know I have tons to say about a lot of things people need to be more aware about but the trick is to compile it all together and make it flow with the holy spirit of truth so that the people can read and instantly know there's something to it, because they feel it. Have you ever read something and it resonated with you? Same thing. There's a saying, Words don't have any power unless we give it power.

I wouldn't worry about the MIB, in fact I wouldn't worry about anything bad that happens towards me for as long as I believe I'm doing Gods will and speaking the truth. I think there's a verse about something like that if anyone want to recite it, I can't remember it and I've never read the Bible - I'm getting around to it though.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: transola
if or when there is a world war 3 there will be no winners humanity has reached a technological stage that another global war would be apocalyptic, radiation does not discriminate nor does it stop at a border or
recognise ethnicity, end game



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
Propaganda is propaganda. What is this meandering piece of written rubbish supposed to do? Stick what in whose pipe? This says or does nothing. More of the same. We could be$^tch slap him down with words but what does that really do? Putin is a dangerous man. A legend in his own mind. God help us all .

This isn't even the speech verbatim. It is 9 summarized points by a russian blogger, with a 10th point made up by the russian blogger. Anyone got a copy of the actual speech?


Did you even read the whole speech? Or just the cliff note version. Jesus Christ does no one on the internet know how to research and actually apply themselves when they do or they always want the filtered version? If you would like to form a better opinion after actually taking the time to read Putins words in their entirety instead of some blogger, this below be a good place to start. It's a pretty accurate translation.

He calls out the ruling elite. He extends an olive branch and yet He draws the line in the sand with them and their entire hierarchy. Let us not be fooled that he is one of them! That is what is so dangerous about this speech. He is suppose to be another one of their puppets but he isn't following the play book anymore. This speech is evidence of that!

Ladies and Gentlemen. We are starting to see the light through the Darkness. Please read his speech and come to your own conclusion as I have.


www.paulcraigroberts.org...
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posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Thiaoouba Prophecy

I'm with you man. He's no saint but he's the first to call it like it is and back it up. American and the elite who run it are out of control.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: hutch622

It most definitely is. Everyone is so concerned with their little bubble. United we stand, divide we fall. The American citizens are as divided as it gets. We went too far with individualism. Soon we'll pay the price for our selfish blindness to reality.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: masqua
a reply to: maghun

Having just read the entire Valdai Club speech over 2 cups of strong coffee, I failed to find the comments listed in the OP's list.

Perhaps another member can pick out the relevant bits for me.


It was more a reading between the lines.

And actual about my other post, Russia already has drawn lines which Georgia and Ukraine were examples of.



posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: maghun

Thank you, starred. It's on the official website so I do not doubt that speech was made by Putin. However: are you sure the OP refers to this speech? Perhaps the OP could chime in? It's a very long speech and before I set off to read all of it - is the OP indeed meant to be a recap of THAT speech?

ETA: just read previous poster comments on the content of the speech, and my diagonal reading of it also fails to see how the points in the OP are reflected in it.
edit on 31-10-2014 by ForteanOrg because: he wanted to add a remark.




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