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Over 214,000 Doctors To Withdraw From Obamacare

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posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:12 AM
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Looks like doctors are fed up with those special Obama.Care Exchange insurance policies.

214,524 are not going to be accepting your insurance if you have an exchange bought policy. Period.

Problems with reimbursement prices (no surprise) and confusion about deductibles are some of the reasons.

Hmmm.

Patient.unProtection.Act'ed.out



More than 214,000 doctors will not participate in new plans under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA).

According to a survey conducted this year by the Medical Group Management Association (MGMA), a trade association comprised of multi-physician medical practices, “as many as 214,524 American physicians will not be participating in any ACA exchange products.” Reasons abound as to why, but, “chief among them is the fact that exchange plans are more likely to offer significantly lower reimbursement rates than private market plans, confusion among consumers about the obligations associated with high deductibles, and fear that patients will stop paying premiums and providers will be unable to recover their losses”

Over 214,000 Doctors To Withdraw From Obamacare



They've HAD IT !!



But But But......

Famous quotes that live in infamy.

36 Times Obama Said You Could Keep Your Health Care Plan

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edit on Oct-30-2014 by xuenchen because: Link Fixed -- you can keep the link now





posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:15 AM
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posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:17 AM
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Fun story, my wife and I are having a baby. So, when that baby gets here we'll have a nice $600 monthly insurance policy if I'm insured through her. She works at a hospital, in-fact, is an RN.

Even if we weren't having a baby, our premium would still go up $200 from what it was this year.

But, you know, I'm just a big complainer and I want poor people to die. So, yeah.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:18 AM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
The link is dead.


If you like your link you can now see it.

fixed. period.




posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:19 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I'm not surprised. Why would doctors sacrifice their money for the public good. It's not like anyone else does. America is about grabbing as much cash as you can. Damn everyone else. Me Me Me Me Me !!!!

It's a shame we can't just do universal health care. It's not like the capitalist system of health care works. But damn Obama for wanting to try to improve the situation. Poor people should just die. Health is for the rich



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: xuenchen

I'm not surprised. Why would doctors sacrifice their money for the public good. It's not like anyone else does. America is about grabbing as much cash as you can. Damn everyone else. Me Me Me Me Me !!!!

It's a shame we can't just do universal health care. It's not like the capitalist system of health care works. But damn Obama for wanting to try to improve the situation. Poor people should just die. Health is for the rich


The United States is a unique nation.

You can't compare with other countries' systems.

U-Care may in fact be possible economically, but nobody seems to be able to discuss the possibilities.

Period.




posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

i'm figuring a year to three maybe four tops before obumacare is is repealed, depending on all the legal wrangling they they like to play.

it's doomed. to many people fussing over it.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:24 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

People will call you a liar. People will also say this article is a lie. If the count is off by any amount, then none exist at all. That's the way it goes.

I don't really care what those people say, because I CAN SAY that my doctor of 20+ years packed up and moved back to Canada right before this "Shaft To The American People", crap charade of a faux healthcare plan came into affect.

He had made a life here and had planned to retire here with the children he had raised here.

Not anymore. He saw (like many others did) what was coming down the pike and decided he couldn't/wouldn't deal with it. He took early retirement and took his leave and I don't blame him.

There isn't a landfill big enough to bury this catastrophe in and the hits just keep coming.

I'm glad a few folks have their free and reduced healthcare. I truthfully am. However, those same folks don't seem to care about the many people who are losing their doctors, losing their plans, and in the end... losing all of their healthcare because they can't afford the insurance or to see the doctor with out it.

We didn't have to blow it all to hell to fix it. It could have been fixed without annihilating everything that existed before the repair started.

JMO and I KNOW many will disagree.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

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posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Your headline is inaccurate. The survey is about exchanges. You know that there are health plans that are fully ACA compliant which do not have to be obtained through an exchange, right? You know that most people are covered by plans not obtained through exchanges, right?
So no, the survey does not indicate that 214,000 doctors have "opted out of Obamacare."

Why are the 25% who are not participating not doing so?

• Almost half of respondents reported they have been unable to provide covered services to ACA exchange patients because the practice is
out of network.
• 20% of respondents reported that their practice was excluded from a narrow network that they would have liked to participate in and 10% of
respondents chose not to participate in a narrow network.
www.mgma.com...

Meaning that, like the longstanding Kaiser health care system, there are plans which limit your choice of providers. That has always been the case. Doctors chose not to, or cannot, participate in those narrow networks. That is no different that the situation in the past.

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posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 01:32 AM
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My doctor quit taking insurance all together. You pay cash or hit the road.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
My doctor quit taking insurance all together. You pay cash or hit the road.


Sounds like that doctor has *Really* HAD IT




posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 02:12 AM
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The cost of medical is insane! My husband has coverage and is thousands of dollars in debt with medical bills. I'm disabled, but they make you wait TWO years to get Medicare and I have another year to wait! It recently cost me a thousand dollars for a friggin ultrasound of my legs! I just had blood work that cost 371.00! Doctors visit next week will be 50.00. When I see my specialist in December it will cost three hundred seventy nine bucks! Plus whatever the blood work for him will cost. I still need a mammogram and new glasses... Looking into what I could get for coverage in the meantime, it would cost like 400.00 per month and a 5000.00 deductible! Five Thousand! I can't afford that!

My husband never had a problem finding a specialist for anything. He has been suffering for months and can't see one until February!

Other Countries have free medical. It comes out of their taxes. I'd rather my taxes go to help people get the coverage they desperately need than other crap.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 02:18 AM
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a reply to: Night Star

Maybe. But the US has a lot larger population than those countries and it's not all rainbows and sunshine in those places.

Besides, it's not the 'merican way.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 02:21 AM
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"If you like your doctor, you can be your doctor"
-someone important



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 02:34 AM
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a reply to: Mr Headshot

Just a week ago, I got a notice my premium is going up about 60%, and I dont even have a wife or a baby.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 02:52 AM
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I am so sorry to hear of your health problems,I had no idea.Much respect to you from me,you always come across as kind,positive and helpful to others.

So in America,are there no state hopitals that will treat folks really cheaply?Here in South Africa,one pays 20ZAR,a bit more than 2 dollars,if I've got the exchange rate right-per visit.It can be a long wait,but you can get anything from a Cat Scan,MRI to mammograms and Caesareans,which would cost a staggering amount,if you had to pay cash.

With our medical insurance,the husband has 6+half thousand bucks deducted from his salary per month,for a family of 4-medical insurance is mandatory at the company he works for.I recently had to go for an MRI-and it cost 11 thousand bucks,with us having to pay in 170 bucks.

But at the state hospitals,it would cost one 20 ZAR/bit more than 2 dollars,if the exchange rate I have in mind is correct.This is a way for the poorest of the poor even,to afford adequate health care.Not fantastic health care,and it's quite a long wait,on the day you arrive for your appointment,but it is better than nothing,and some hospitals are still reasonably up to scratch.

Seems to me as an outsider,the Obamacare system has benefited a few and disadvantaged many,from what I've read on this site.a reply to: Night Star


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edit on 30-10-2014 by Raxoxane because: typo's



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 03:03 AM
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Seems to me as an outsider,the Obamacare system has benefited a few and disadvantaged many,from what I've read on this site.

The ACA (Obamacare) is not a move toward socialized medicine. It's primary purpose was to make it possible for anyone who has the means, to acquire medical insurance. Prior to the ACA, medical insurers were able to discriminate against those with pre-existing medical conditions (among other "conditions").

Because they must now insure everyone, their "exposure" has increased. In order to compensate, the insurers have, in many cases, increased premiums on existing policies. For me, the cost of my insurance increased by about 20% because of my age. However, the cost of my daughter's insurance decreased by about 67% because of her age. The cost used to be the same for both of us, now my total premium decreased dramatically and my coverage has not changed.

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posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: xuenchen

I'm not surprised. Why would doctors sacrifice their money for the public good. It's not like anyone else does. America is about grabbing as much cash as you can. Damn everyone else. Me Me Me Me Me !!!!


It's not just the doctors, or America. It is the system that we, all of the humans on this little ball of dirt, have allowed ourselves to become enslaved to. Change the system, change the world. We don't have to be enslaved to our "masters" with their little make believe number system called "money", and yet we are ALL guilty of allowing it to exist. Perhaps one day humans will wake up....truly wake up and get rid of such antiquated pretend systems once and for all.

Then, and only then, will we be truly free.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 03:07 AM
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a reply to: Raxoxane

Thanks Honey! Going to be a long hard road ahead I think. So far I lived through being hit as a pedestrian by a minivan and been through cancer so I guess I can be strong and face the days ahead of debt and more debt. Can't get blood from a stone as they say. And if I can't handle it, I'll make a thread for a nice pity party. LOL

I just think it is a shame that money matters more than human lives.



posted on Oct, 30 2014 @ 03:12 AM
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originally posted by: buni11687
a reply to: Mr Headshot

Just a week ago, I got a notice my premium is going up about 60%, and I dont even have a wife or a baby.



Wow, that's quite an increase! Hope you can afford it!

My husband and I make just a little too much to get Medicaid which would be free. I say, "I guess we're poor, but not poor enough." LOL

Actually there are a lot of people falling through the cracks right now and can't afford coverage or the care they need.



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