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originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: areyouserious2010
What a joke. The cops had plenty of time to talk and make a plan. One or maybe two take the roll of shooting if necessary.
you guys gotta stop using the 21 foot rule as an excuse. It doesn't apply to this situation. They already had their guns out and a bead on the guy.
Taser would have worked just fine.
So you have to walk up to 15 feet of the guy.
So you have to walk up to 15 feet of the guy. Seems to work for actual professional cops around the world in much more dangerous situations.
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
What's the opinion of the posters regarding the UK cops that taser the guy wielding two machetes. They seemed to have found a solution to the problem at hand with out resulting in unnecessary force.
Were they competent? Were they incredibly stupid, undertrained and uneducated or at least in comparison to the US police forces? Oblivious to the obvious danger? Reckless?
There is no excuses for what he did.
However only one of the parties involved had a mental disability.
And I'm not referring to Milton...
EDIT: Where in the hell are all of the net launching guns? Only in movies???
Listen, your argument might hold water if it was one or two cops. All of those idiots are standing there with guns drawn itching to shoot this guy.
They even held the dog back.
They all knew what was coming next and they did NOTHING to defuse the situation.
I am tired of all the cop apologists.
There you go folks.
Cops are absolved of all responsibility.
If you're actually defending or justifying the actions of these scum...pure murdering scum, then you have mental issues.
I am tired of the lynch mob spinning itself up into a frenzy.
Only a small percentage have something like this happen to them.
I have watched the video repeatedly.
There were many shots fired after he was down.
The shots continued for longer than a fraction of a second after he was immobile.
Seems like he probably would miss.... with the shooting that we have seen in the video.
im sorry but if 4+ cops and a dog cant restraint one man with a knife they need to find another kind of work...
Willing and doing are different things. Lip service to appease those who believe in words alone.
originally posted by: areyouserious2010
You have yet to make a convincing argument and are now resorting to name calling.
Reasonable people see this for what it is. Try getting away from ATS and your close friends or family. Go talk to people and see what their opinion is.
I understand, the majority of ATS has a certain view on police no matter what they do. And some come here to be immersed in positions that fit their own.
Its like conservatives going to Fox News and liberals going to MSNBC.
Like minds think alike.
originally posted by: blupblup
Only in America....
Why did they all have to shoot him at all?
Get a riot shield and rush him
Tranq the guy
Fire rubber bullets
Go at him with batons while dressed in riot gear...
Even if they had a hard-on for shooting, here's a ****ing idea.... SHOOT TO MAIM!!!! You know, the legs, arms.... not 46 frickin' times and even when he's dead on the floor.
There are so many ways to have dealt with this and the absolutely ONLY one that should NEVER have happened, is the one that actually did happen.
originally posted by: blupblup
Absolutely.... any trained, competent police officer can deal with an armed suspect.
Especially one with a knife, and without killing them or shooting them, 46 times.
These officers wilfully murdered this man.
They are pure scum.