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originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: NavyDoc
How would that be any different than memorizing a religious hymn or story from, say, Ancient Egypt? Just ignore it, it's religious based, therefore no need to study it to understand them & their rituals? How would we have an accurate understanding of the culture if none of that was taught? Yeah, I can just see a modified xenophobic world history class right now. "North Africans developed a vast culture with a lot of influence. They built pyramids & did some things. The end."
I am on his side here....Kid's can't even learn Christianity anymore but they cover Islam religions??
Not to mention it is kind of hard not to teach a little Christianity, being that when you look at the calendar it is based on Jesus...How do you explain that to kids without "teaching" something about Christianity? I am talking about being ABLE to teach kids about Christianity...Schools can't anymore, so being that everything we base time off of was from "Christianity" and we can't teach it, but the school can cover Islam religions because it is "world history class"? No, I don't buy it....Nor do I like it
originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: Adaluncatif
What's wrong with Islam - are you blind? Who are the people currently blowing up cafe's, hotels, innocent people going about their lives? Muslims! I won't touch Judaism because they have blood on their hands with the palestinians. However, what christian goes about trying to behead a soldier on british streets,
blows up peoples houses and makes X million Syrians homeless - guess who - you know perfectly well - that's whats wrong with islam it thinks its good enough to be the religion of the world when all it does is pervert the world. IM HO. Who hates the Iraqian people with the blond hair and green eyes and is trying to force married and rape on their women to breed out their genetics? isis another group of hard-line rapists, murders and destroyers of people. As you can see I am not a fan and don't believe in humbug politeness when talking about certain indefensible subjects.
"What are the 5 pillars of Islam?"
"What does Jihad mean?"
"What is a caliph and who was the first caliph?"
"Describe Muhammed's upbringing"
"What did Muhammed do when he returned to Mecca?"
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: squittles
Looks like standard history fare to me.
Those are all history questions, except maybe the 5 pillars of islam question. But when placed with the other questions, it is clear that it is also just a benign history question as well.
originally posted by: squittles
But when any mention of the roots of other religions seem to be banned from public schools, (do you really think theres a chapter on the roots of Christianity in that book? You know someone would sue) I think I might be able to empathize a little bit with him - of course, his version of events is pretty different from the admins, and he says he has a witness - that he never threatened anyone, etc.
Having had a kid go through the public school system, I guess I can understand the frustration - any complaint is often met by hostility and defensiveness - they quickly circle the bureaucratic wagons.
I recall my kid's AP Chem teacher quit at the beginning of term, and was replaced by someone who not only didn't know Chemistry, (much less college-level) but could barely speak English. My kid was often up until 2, 3 in the morning, trying to teach herself from the book. I complained to the principal, saying this isn't right, she shouldn't have to do that, and he got very angry with me, and trust me, we paid for that down the line in ways large and small.
originally posted by: squittles
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Where I went to school, there was almost no discussion on Christianity - or any other religion that was taught.
You seem like you want to be "right" - but truthfully, neither of us know what else is taught in that classroom. I've said repeatedly I don't have any objection to teaching Islamic culture and its role in world history - in fact, it's influence is rather under-appreciated, as is the Catholic church's. (The only mentions of the Catholic church I recall from class were negative, but that's neither here nor there.)
If you're going to teach religion in a history course, and you should, you should afford equal respect to all religions and their origins. That *is* the law - yet let's not pretend that many schools haven't violated the law, that kids haven't been suspended or removed from class for praying aloud, or reading a Bible, or wearing a cross or a rosary to school.
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: babybunnies
Actually Islam is not a religion, is the set of laws that the muslim world abide by in their faith, Islam is a law
Islam is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion articulated by the Qur'an, a book considered by its adherents to be the verbatim word of God