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Communists Are Issued a Death penalty In Ukraine Fascism Welcomed, Poroshenko.

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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

There you go.

Japan nuclear plant gets approval to restart, over three years after Fukushima




A town in southwest Japan became the first to approve the restart of a nuclear power station on Tuesday, a step forward in Japan's fraught process of reviving an industry left idled by the Fukushima catastrophe in 2011.


A nut job Prime Minster.



Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's government is pushing to restart nuclear reactors, but has said he will defer to local authorities to approve a policy that is still unpopular with large swaths of the public.


That goes a long way for someone to claim that they'll be starting those reactors for a LONG time, dont you agree?
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

Once again you left out key information from the article.


The restart of Japan's first reactors to receive clearance to restart under new rules imposed since Fukushima is unlikely until next year as Kyushu Electric still needs to pass operational safety checks.

All 48 of the country's nuclear reactors were gradually taken offline following Fukushima, the world's worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl in 1986.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun


I always find it interesting when people call the Ukrainians (or their government) "nazis"

The Ukrainians aren't "Nazis" anymore than the Russains are "commies".

Extreme right wing fringe groups are the ones that fostered the coup in Kiev. They are the "Nazis" (National Socialists) behind the scenes. Good Nazis always hide behind the scenes. Thats the way the "NSDAP" (National Socialist German Workers Party) rolled in Germany and the way their ilk are rolling in Ukraine now.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:16 AM
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As for the claim about the government fleeing they did no such thing. Yanukovych's party remained in their elected positions in Parliament.

In name, maybe…

No, he fled in February

Rewrite history much?



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

That's a plant in Satsumasendai, run by the Kyushu corp. It has nothing at all to do with Fukushima. None of it's reactors are in any danger, and the plant was only shut down after outcry following the Fukushima disaster.

Satsumasendai is essentially on the the other side of Japan. Did you actually read the article, or did you have a knee-jerk reaction to the headline? I understand, the headline is misleading, but this reactor is as far removed from the Fukushima disaster as possible. People need power, and Nuclear is one of the best options for the Japanese people, who don't have a large footprint of land to exploit for other power generation.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:19 AM
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This you have being only following what has being occurring in Ukraine by the western news outlets.

This was comical when this user stated the following.

" This thread feels like just another attempt to discredit Ukraine as an independent, sovereign nation. "Oy, the NAZI JUNTA in Ukraine wants to kill all the communists! Mother Russia should step in and make things better!"


1.I had no idea that Poroshenko had a little bandwagon of supporters even all the way in Japan should your location be truthful.

Statements like this by Poroshenko was not the first time where he had claimed things and then weren't proven to be truth.

2. The term "NAZI JUNTA" was and is the term which is has being used in 2012 to show the right side of those Pro Euporean Union protestors whom were carrying weapons at the protest.

They were mainly members of the right sector and Svoboda.


3. The current election are a sham. These are the results which Biden and American government were hoping for so they could speed up the process of making sure Ukraine became another Greece.

With low paying wages.

4. I am not surprised by the support for Poroshenko in here.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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Not at all.. I am merely using the statements Yanukovych gave to the media.

Ukraine crisis: "I didn't flee" says Yanukovych as he calls for Russia to act
- Former Ukranian president makes nervous first appearance since he was driven from Kiev last week



He gave few clear indications of his future plans, saying only that he was staying at the residence of an “old friend” in Rostov-on-Don.

Throughout the press conference Yanukovych insisted that he had not abandoned Ukraine, but was forced to leave because of threats against himself and his family, including his young grandson.

“I did not flee,” he said. “I will return to Ukraine as soon as my security can be guaranteed.”


If he fled then under Ukraine's Constitution he effectively resigned his office.

So on one side you have Yanukovych saying he did not flee and on the other Russia stating he did. I don't know about you but im more inclined to take the statement directly from the horses mouth than putin.

To fix the confusion the Prime minster and the cabinet are the "Government". When the PM resigned, the government resigned, allowing for the latest elections.


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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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Once again you left out key information from the article.

The point is you keep leaving out what hapoened in Kiev originally that brought things here.

A puppet government established by force, not elections, with a puppet head at the helm, beholden to the west. Just like every other coup or outright invasion and subjugation of other countries in recent history.

Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now currently in the works, Syria.

"Assad must go". Do tell how Ukraine is turning out any different with fake "elections".



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

The government in Kiev was the same government elected in 2012. Your attempt to claim a coup occurred is not supported by the evidence / Facts.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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That explains the Russian FM stating Russia would recognize the upcoming votes in the South and East of Ukraine.

Yah Russian is recognized by the rest of the world as having not been the cause of the misery in Ukraine.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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Did you actually read the article did you have a knee-jerk reaction to the headline?

I did read the article, it states that the Japanese still haven't learned anything even after all these three years after the Fukushima.
It would at least take for another accident to happen in order for people to learn that Nuclear power is not the best.



Nuclear is one of the best options for the Japanese people

The majority of the actual Japanese people seem to be disagreeing with that statement.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:26 AM
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Your attempt to claim a coup occurred is not supported by the evidence / Facts.

ROFL

Done here.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:28 AM
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Yanukovich fled wasn't voted out. But i am sure after this picture you will still these protesters Pro EU peaceful.
Source

Could you imagine the America militia in the senate demanding and forcing Obama and his government to resign? well this what happened in Ukraine.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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How will Ukraine be an sovereign nation if it joins the EU? your stats as an sovereign nation dies once you became a member.


You obviously know nothing of how the EU works.


There is a reason why the British haven't joined the EU.


The British helped create the EU and formally joined in 1973. You are confusing the EU with the Eurozone. Please do a little bit of research before you embarrass yourself further:

Not wikipedia.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:32 AM
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I don't "Support" poroshenko at all. He's a stupid man who has made stupid decisions since he came to power. But he has NEVER called for the mass murder of communists.

And you're right, I stay away from state news sources like Russia Today. They are a media arm of the Putin administration and will always, without fail, tow the Putin line. I understand that some folks disillusioned with the United States might watch a lot of RT because they are often highly critical of US Policies and actions, but you have to understand that they as biased a source of information as they come.

If you say the current elections are a sham, what of the "supposed" referendum in Crimea which amazingly had a record breaking turnout and an OVERWHEMLING vote (I think they reported 90% in favor of Russia). Never in HISTORY has a vote been so one-sided. Was that legitimate?



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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Disagreement or not, the shutdown of the reactors in Japan resulted in a big hit to the economy after the government was forced to import more fossil fuels, which was starting to falter even before the disaster. For now, nuclear is a reliable, stable source of energy for people who desperately need it. As soon as an affordable alternative to nuclear power is available, I'll back that 110%.

I know that popular opinion is against Nuclear Power. There are a large number people in the United States who are also against Nuclear Power. But that doesn't change facts. Nuclear is is great source of energy, and until an affordable alternative can generate the amount of power nuclear does, it's not going anywhere.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
Could you imagine the America militia in the senate demanding and forcing Obama and his government to resign? well this what happened in Ukraine.


Being our military is sworn to uphold the Constitution and not the person yes.

Also Yanukovych stated in his interview that he did not flee. Is there any reason you are dismissing what Yanukovych stated himself?


Here is an article discussing Ukraine's rejection of Russia / ideology.
In blow to Russia, pro-Europe parties sweep Ukraine elections


Ukrainian voters handed the country’s pro-European leadership a resounding victory in the first parliamentary elections since the Euromaidan uprising cut ties with Moscow. The results further marginalize the country’s Russia-backed rebels and expand President Petro Poroshenko’s mandate to shrink the budget — a reform pro-Europe politicians say is needed to save the country from economic collapse.

With about half the votes from Sunday's poll tallied by Monday afternoon, Poroshenko had already begun to hold power-sharing talks with ex-interim President Arseny Yatsenyuk, whose People’s Front party surprised many by winning about 21 percent of the vote, just shy of the 23 percent claimed by Poroshenko’s bloc.

In comments broadcast on national television, Poroshenko said the electorate had given a "strong and irreversible backing to Ukraine’s path to Europe" with Sunday's vote, and reiterated that he and Yatsenyuk would seek to swiftly build a coalition to steer their country toward greater integration with the European Union.

With the major caveat that voting was impossible for nearly 3 million people in separatist-held eastern regions, a spokesman for the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), which is also mediating peace talks between Kiev and the pro-Russia rebels, said Sunday’s election was “amply contested” and “largely upheld democratic commitments.”

“As far as Russia is concerned, they have clearly been defeated in these elections,” said Joerg Forbrig, an Eastern Europe expert with the German-Marshall Fund in Berlin. “If they were trying to destabilize the country so elections weren’t possible, they failed.”

Even Moscow indicated the election results in most of Ukraine were valid, with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov saying Monday he thought Russia would recognize the results.



As for my comment about the communist party and losing (and your comment distorting the meaning of your op) -

This was despite a poor showing for pro-Russian factions, including a dismal performance by the Russian-allied Communist Party, which will be left out of parliament for the first time since Ukraine won independence in 1991.



As for your consistent claim about "fascists / Nazies" etc -


Significantly, the far-right nationalist parties — including the Radical Party and Fatherland — were edged out by moderates, undercutting Russian President’s Vladimir Putin’s line that Kiev had been taken over by Nazis and fascists in the Euromaidan uprising.

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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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They pulled down Lenin's imposing statue, communism is out over there.
They kind of brought it on themselves, the communists that is.

The Roman fascism came after their people power Senate system failed. Fascism is a natural fit after Communism failed hardcore over there. All that is needed is for a military leader to place his "Fasci" on the Capital building and get approval of the masses. Putin will be sticking his up on the eastern half of Ukraine, or maybe he already has since the seperatists already approve of him. Putin may be the ultimate Fascist in this.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: intrptr

I always find it interesting when people call the Ukrainians (or their government) "nazis". I'm sorry, I find it hard to sympathize with any position that calls them nazis when they're ones being INVADED by Russia.


You're making it perfectly crystal clear you have NO idea of what Ukraine was up to during the time of the German NAZIs and what they did during WW2.

YES..Ukraine were in like flynn WITH the NAZIs during WW2...Ukraine were Fascists and were aiding the AXIS war machine.

And for your further information, the Soviets were not Fascists...they fought against Fascism, and were in fact Communists.

I suggest you do some more research before you make yourself appear even more foolish.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 01:56 PM
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Good point. Good insight. People will forget that if anyone has a right to staunchly avoid communism its the people who tried it already and werent pleased with the results.

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