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Communists Are Issued a Death penalty In Ukraine Fascism Welcomed, Poroshenko.

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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:00 AM
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Communists Are Issued a Death penalty In Ukraine Fascism Welcomed, Straight from the Horses mouth

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It is the Ukrainian people who have issued death penalty the Communist. For the first time in 96 years our parliament won't have communists.


People on the commenting section arent happy with the statement, Poroshenko made the statement during the election, this basically means that fascism will grow in Ukraine.

Already several fascist parties have gained seats in the Parliament. This tweet also confirms that the Communists were banned from having major seats in the Parliament and taking part in the election.




the "death penalty for the Communists" bit is pretty disturbing. Maybe change your wording a little?




This tweet is from the official Poroshenko twitter account. Whats more VP Biden is going to visit Poroshenko in the following days dont expect anything from the visit.




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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:06 AM
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I am curious how many ways people can take comments out of context.. People need to apply common sense.

They are referring to the parties that lost in the elections. This election was more a referendum on the direction of Ukraine, IE get rid of the failed soviet style and embrace the western style. The Parliament that was elected under Yanukovych was voted out this go around.

But by all means continue to trump up the bs fascist position.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:10 AM
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Whats more VP Biden is going to visit Poroshenko in the following days don't expect anything from the visit.

Isn't Biden's son mucky-muck of some oil drilling company there?

To the thread: The "communists" are really socialists right? Social programs like schools, fire departments and the post office aren't allowable in the Fascist world? They just don't call them social programs for fear of the communist stigma.

Eastern Europe is still burdened with the traumas of WWII under Stalin and Hitler.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:12 AM
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The Parliament that was elected under Yanukovych was voted out this go around.

Oh, I though it was burned out last February in Kiev?



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:19 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Xcathdra


The Parliament that was elected under Yanukovych was voted out this go around.

Oh, I though it was burned out last February in Kiev?



Nope... The Parliament elected in 2012, that Russia recognized, impeached Yanukovych. This election go around was due to the government resigning, requiring snap elections.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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This election go around was due to the government resigning, requiring snap elections.

The government fled because of the coup. What has transpired since is more meddling in their affairs by the west, EU NATO, USA, et al.

You can tell me it ain't true all you want, but the legitimate government was burned out of power and it fled. Now they are having "elections". Surrre…

Brawls in Kiev
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Xcathdra


The Parliament that was elected under Yanukovych was voted out this go around.

Oh, I though it was burned out last February in Kiev?



Nope... The Parliament elected in 2012, that Russia recognized, impeached Yanukovych. This election go around was due to the government resigning, requiring snap elections.


Correction there was a coup/protests in 2012 there weren't any elections.




impeached Yanukovych.

The parliament impeached Yanukovych because of the Right sector militias and its other neo fascist nationalist front groups.

You can deny this all you want.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:34 AM
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he speaking about the PARTY, not the individuals. Apply some critical thinking and the meaning becomes obvious.

Government members in the United States have been issuing "Death Penalties" for the opposing parties for decades now, does that mean these people want all Democrats/Republicans/Libertarians/etc executed?

This thread feels like just another attempt to discredit Ukraine as an independent, sovereign nation. "Oy, the NAZI JUNTA in Ukraine wants to kill all the communists! Mother Russia should step in and make things better!"

I'm not buying it.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:36 AM
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Uhm no.. really...

July 2014 - Ukraine Prime Minister Resigns as Key Coalition in Parliament Falls Apart


KIEV, Ukraine — Prime Minister Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk resigned abruptly on Thursday after the governing coalition of Parliament collapsed, creating uncertainty about the makeup of the government in Kiev as it continues its fight against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s restive east.

“I declare my resignation in connection with the collapse of the coalition and blocking of government initiatives,” Mr. Yatsenyuk said after two major parties announced they were pulling their support, a step that allows President Petro O. Poroshenko to dissolve Parliament and call elections for the fall.


Under Ukraine's constitution when the PM resigns, the "government" resigns. Hence the reason for these elections. The last parliament elections were held in December 2012.

As for the claim about the government fleeing they did no such thing. Yanukovych's party remained in their elected positions in Parliament.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:36 AM
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They are referring to the parties that lost in the elections. This election was more a referendum on the direction of Ukraine, IE get rid of the failed soviet style and embrace the western style. The Parliament that was elected under Yanukovych was voted out this go around.

No they arent. The 65 years part in the context.


IE get rid of the failed soviet style and embrace the western style.
Your comical and embrace the western style? you mean to embrace fascism.




This election was more a referendum on the direction of Ukraine

Really care to provide sources on that claim of yours?



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:40 AM
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He means both the party and individuals.




This thread feels like just another attempt to discredit Ukraine as an independent, sovereign nation. "Oy, the NAZI JUNTA in Ukraine wants to kill all the communists! Mother Russia should step in and make things better!"


I had no idea sen john mccain or the Pro Euporean Union had a follow ing where you think and believe that everything is rainbow and nice cloudy skies over the wonderful pro western mindsets.

Judging the factors how Greece and Italy and few others are treated in the Euporean Union.



Since your in Tokiwadai hows that fukushima clean up coming along? oh wait thats right i hear they want to restart the nuclear power plant what a wasteful bad idea.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:43 AM
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"Oy, the NAZI JUNTA in Ukraine wants to kill all the communists! Mother Russia should step in and make things better!" I'm not buying it.


What the Ukrankian Army is doing in the eastern parts of ukraine is not restorating order or control but an attack agaisnt civilians whom have spoken out agaisnt Kiev.

I had no idea Poroshenko had a following in here, Poroshenko a billionaire whom will never fix Ukraine.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:44 AM
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"Oy, the NAZI JUNTA in Ukraine wants to kill all the communists! Mother Russia should step in and make things better!"

The Nazis aren't done murdering Ukrainians that don't want any pat of what happened in Kiev, Odessa and what is currently happening in Eastern Ukraine.

Elections bah, the current Junta in Kiev is "democratic" in appearance only.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:50 AM
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Can you point out anywhere where he has called for the mass murder of communists? Any source, or is it simply your own conjecture?

If you can do that, I'll reverse my opinion on the matter awful fast.

In threat of thread drifting, regarding your comments on Fukushima, I don't think they'll be starting those reactors for a LONG time, if they ever get restarted at all. Everyone is already wary of TEPCO and their ability to safely handle the situation. The public outcry for restarting any of the reactors on site would be pretty intense. Now, if you're referring to Fukushima Daini, that's a different story.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
No they arent. The 65 years part in the context.

Yes, really, they are.



originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
Your comical and embrace the western style? you mean to embrace fascism.

Once again you do not understand.



originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
Really care to provide sources on that claim of yours?


* - 2012 Ukraine Parliamentary Elections
* - 2014 Ukraine Parliamentary Election


On 25 October the Central Election Commission of Ukraine stated it hoped it could complete and release all results of the nation wide party list and the constituencies by the morning of 30 October.[9] On 26 October it did release the final results from polling stations abroad; Ukrainian voters who had voted outside Ukraine had given 25.38% of their votes to People's Front, 22.24% to Self Reliance, 21.72% to Petro Poroshenko Bloc, 8.16% to Right Sector, 6.5% to Svoboda, 4.74% to Civil Position and 2.44% to Fatherland.[/b


An example -
Svoboda
2012 - 10.45%
2014 - 6.5%

The other parties either formed shortly after the protests or have been dissolved. The elections in Ukraine resulted in a EU leaning government. Secondly your own OP shows that since the communist party showed 13.18% in 2012 and pretty much completely nill this go around.


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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:53 AM
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I always find it interesting when people call the Ukrainians (or their government) "nazis". I'm sorry, I find it hard to sympathize with any position that calls them nazis when they're ones being INVADED by Russia.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
The Nazis aren't done murdering Ukrainians that don't want any pat of what happened in Kiev, Odessa and what is currently happening in Eastern Ukraine.


That explains the Russian FM stating Russia would recognize the upcoming votes in the South and East of Ukraine.

Sarcasm aside you got anything to back that claim up (Nazi comment)?



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 08:58 AM
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When you start using sources other then "WIKI" i might start replying to you and your threads. The use of "WIKI" is when you cant find any other sources on google or other means so you just look for the easiest way which is WIKI and is not reablie.



Secondly your own OP shows that since the communist party showed 13.18% in 2012 and pretty much completely nill this go around


Nice try with that one but do look again.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:01 AM
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This thread feels like just another attempt to discredit Ukraine as an independent, sovereign nation

How will Ukraine be an sovereign nation if it joins the EU? your stats as an sovereign nation dies once you became a member.

There is a reason why the British haven't joined the EU.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter

If you paid attention you would know, at the bottom of the wikipage, are the resource links for the info in the entry.




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