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Oh Noes! Not Another Whacky Solar Flare!

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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 01:30 AM
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Yeah So i' kinda getting sick of all these whacky threads about Solar Flares and Solar Flare Category X3 and HUGE Solar Flare headed toward Earth!!! We're Doomed!! Coronal Mass Ejection OMGZ Threads...

Seriously...

Please tell me when a Solar Flare has really caused a ton of damage to the earth or the electricity grid or a satellite system that has cause huge mayhem on Earth?

So there was one in 1859.... That was a biggie. Telegraph pylons threw sparks. WOW. There was one in 1921 and 1960 which caused widespread radio disruption. One in 1989 which disrupted the electricity grid in Quebec USA.

Sure if a CME happened today as big as one that occurred back in 1859 the USA would be screwed because their electrical grid is shonky and out-dated and would cost a fortune to fix.

I honestly don't really see the need for a bajillion threads of what seems like a real non-existant threat. This doom porn has got to stop.

Tell me of a time when a CME or.. solar flare... or which ever way you want to call it has killed a bunch of people?




posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:15 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE



This doom porn has got to stop
WTF kind of crazy loony toon fruitcake language is that, on a conspiracy site.


It's the potential, given that the measuring scale is open ended, of catastrophic zombie doom. Soak it up my friend, revel in the doomness of it and get rid of that whole fact thingy malarkey, it's not important.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:22 AM
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originally posted by: DaRAGE
Yeah So i' kinda getting sick of all these whacky threads about Solar Flares


Hey, check it out.
A thread about solar flares.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:23 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

Aliens told me that Ebola comes from Solar flares.
It's true, I promise



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:28 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

To be fair, a catastrophic solar flare is a genuine threat, particularly for North America.

I do agree though, there's a lot of ignorance on the subject, this includes people seeing UFO's on STEREO and SOHO.

It's sad really, we have so much data and information coming from a dozen spacecraft watching the Sun's every move, yet people still get worked up over low level X class flares.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:33 AM
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The flare in that one movie with Nick Cage was pretty bad.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:37 AM
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I think it's fine that someone post about solar flares, it's cool to know in some weird way, even if it's small ones or opposite earth directed.

I can't watch everything so someone is doing it for me, and it's good education for those who doesn't know much as it always create a discussion in some way.

We "all" know it takes a rather big X flare to affect earth in a serious way, and mostly just create some pretty northern light...

The doom porn is just some added spice to the mix, so we won't forget it one day could be serious, and we will all die

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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: Mianeye

The doom porn is just some added spice to the mix, so we won't forget it one day could be serious, and we will all die


We will all die? Tell me when a solar flare has been classed as an extinction level event? None. Out of those so called seven (i think) Extinction Level Events that have occurred in the past, Scientist believe something like one was a comet hit, the other 6 were probably the earths oceans warming up too much causing depleted oxygen level in the water allowing hydrogen sulfide producing bacteria to thrive causing Extinction Level Anoxic Events.

Solar Flares... Nope...
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:55 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

But, it could happen today or in a billion years, you never know, and we will all die....again

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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

Well, the Carrington Event, which is more than likely the 1859 event you were talking about, if it happened today, could potentially wreck anything with a circuit board in it, probably total entire national grids, or at least cause significant infrastructural damage, and it is this damage that we have to consider the ripple effects of.

For some, the worst that will happen is loosing power to their house, but that outage could last months and months, as it will take time to rebuild grid connections which have failed during the event. Furthermore generators in places like hospitals and public buildings may also fail, as might any complicated electrical system. Failure of both the grid supply, and generator based supplies of power, would see everyone on life support drop like a sack of spanners.

Vehicles also, because of the increasing reliance on internal computer systems inside of them, may also be much more seriously effected than they would otherwise have been, with stoppages and breakdowns stranding folk at the side of highways, byways, in the middle of intersections. Not all the cars will fail though, because not all are new enough to be weak against that threat, so that would be ludicrous dangerous in and of its self.

Then you have the effect that such a thing might have on nuclear energy systems. Do not even go there!

Water treatment plants, power stations, grid infrastructure, all these things we have now, were not present in the 1800s, but we know from that event that even the relatively robust telegraph system was done pretty bad damage by the Carrington Event, and the systems we have now are more delicate, less sturdy, and more complex. These things lead me to believe that because of our reliance on chip and battery carrying articles and infrastructure, we would in 2014, be at GREATER risk than the people of 1859 were, from a similar sized solar event coming into contact with our planets magnetosphere.

We rely so heavily on electric power, our complicated and incredible communications systems, we have airplanes now as well... A fat gout of energy from the sun might have been a big issue in the 1800s, but at least back then there was no potential for massive lumps of metal falling out of the sky as a result of a CME or other space weather event! Nowadays, if the crap really hits the fan, crap WILL start exploding, and people WILL die, precisely because our reliance on technology and electrical energy and systems, is so much more widespread and deeply entrenched!



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 02:57 AM
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Don't worry. You'll know when its going to be bad if you wake up to find the world covered in forests!

Seriously though, when we had the last big ones there wasn't a much technology as there is now. I guess that the main thing we have to worry about, unless its a biggie like in the Nicholas Cage film which is the Knowing by the way, is how it will affect our electrical equipment. If it just knocks it out and this is temporary then it might not be so bad as rendering it all useless. Better start backing everything up!!



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 03:01 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Only long span transmission lines and things directly connected to it would be affected.

Your car and phone would be fine, unless they were plugged into the grid.

Commercial jets won't fall out of the sky, but passengers would be exposed to radiation.

Most of Europe would be ok, it's places like North America, Australia and China that would take the worse hit, and even then, for China and Australia to even be affected, it would take a massive solar storm.


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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

Doesn't only affect things that are actually working at the time . Eg if your car is not running it will be unaffected . If this is correct and a massive event was detected would there not be in place plans to basically just shut everything down untill the vent has passed .



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 04:11 AM
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a reply to: hutch622

Your car won't be effected at all.

A solar storm isn't an EMP and needs a long metal conductor ...such as long powerlines and metal pipes to carry a current.

And yes there plans in place for such an event to shut down grids or disconnect transformers.

spectrum.ieee.org...


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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 04:17 AM
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a reply to: DaRAGE

Thank you OP for being the posting/thought police. We need poster like you to tell us all what is discussion worthy...........Thank you.





Maybe you could screen potential posts before hand and pick what you think we want to read. It would save you the time involved crying about it past tense.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 04:46 AM
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I do wonder what a really bad CME would do sometimes, perhaps it would be something like this?




posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 04:48 AM
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I'm confused, does OP want the world to end or not?

This doom sh/t is taking way too long imo.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 07:15 AM
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originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: DaRAGE



This doom porn has got to stop
WTF kind of crazy loony toon fruitcake language is that, on a conspiracy site.


It's the potential, given that the measuring scale is open ended, of catastrophic zombie doom. Soak it up my friend, revel in the doomness of it and get rid of that whole fact thingy malarkey, it's not important.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell


I couldn't have said it better myself.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 07:23 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: hutch622

Your car won't be effected at all.

A solar storm isn't an EMP and needs a long metal conductor ...such as long powerlines and metal pipes to carry a current.

And yes there plans in place for such an event to shut down grids or disconnect transformers.

spectrum.ieee.org...



Actually an EMP can effect a newer car, it only needs millivolts to short out some electronics. A ground rod pounded into the ground hooked to a metal wire to the car can stop that from happening by draining to the ground. The rod needs to be two feet deep minimum. Now, I have been thinking that a little spring wire could be mounted to do this automatically when you park the car. It would be nice if we still had metal bumpers, a little spring rod with a flag could be used to tell you when to stop in the garage. That would work great. Now, the plastic could possibly still conduct that charge to the rod, so it still may work. Tires insulate though.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 07:23 AM
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originally posted by: DaRAGE

originally posted by: Mianeye

The doom porn is just some added spice to the mix, so we won't forget it one day could be serious, and we will all die


We will all die? Tell me when a solar flare has been classed as an extinction level event? None. Out of those so called seven (i think) Extinction Level Events that have occurred in the past, Scientist believe something like one was a comet hit, the other 6 were probably the earths oceans warming up too much causing depleted oxygen level in the water allowing hydrogen sulfide producing bacteria to thrive causing Extinction Level Anoxic Events.

Solar Flares... Nope...


Why does something have to be an extinction level event to be a threat? The reality is our society is heavily dependant on electricity and technology. A powerful CME has the potential to bring both to its knees. Millions without heat, shortages of food and water, financial system collapse. It would be a mess and there would surely be a lot of death and suffering. Will it be an extinction level event? No. But it would be the hardest period of time to live in since the great depression without question.




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