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originally posted by: Grimpachi
I would really like to see a mirror thread taking the other side.
Maybe one that says : Christianity Destroyed or Religion Destroyed
Followed by an equally thoughtful OP such as the one here. Later in the thread one can admit they were just using the right bait to draw in the proper crowd and claim if you save just one person from the shackles of religion it was all worth it.
I wonder would such a thread be allowed to stay? Would the crowd attracted remain civil?
I wouldn't be able to pull off such a thread because if I say I will answer posters and questions I will unlike some OPs that claim to and don't then instead of actually rationalizing why they simply claim rationality and reason belong to them and theirs which can't be used by others...err....something like that.
Oh boy if someone starts thread like that please PM me. I would simply add it to my list of read daily.
A space ghost sends its son (that's also its father) to ancient Palestine to create a loophole for a law it created after a girl made from a man's rib ate a forbidden fruit after being convinced to do so by a talking snake.
originally posted by: tadaman
LOL
originally posted by: TzarChasm
the bible is basically "game of thrones" if the series had been written to promote religion. except without the dragons. which means it sucks.
And having come to a certain cave, and wishing to rest in it, the blessed Mary dismounted from her beast, and sat down with the child Jesus in her bosom. And there were with Joseph three boys, and with Mary a girl, going on the journey along with them. And, lo, suddenly there came forth from the cave many dragons; and when the children saw them, they cried out in great terror. Then Jesus went down from the bosom of His mother, and stood on His feet before the dragons; and they adored Jesus, and thereafter retired. Then was fulfilled that which was said by David the prophet, saying: Praise the Lord from the earth, ye dragons; ye dragons, and all ye deeps. And the young child Jesus, walking before them, commanded them to hurt no man. But Mary and Joseph were very much afraid lest the child should be hurt by the dragons. And Jesus said to them: Do not be afraid, and do not consider me to be a little child; for I am and always have been perfect; and all the beasts of the forest must needs be tame before me.
originally posted by: daaskapital
originally posted by: TzarChasm
the bible is basically "game of thrones" if the series had been written to promote religion. except without the dragons. which means it sucks.
But there are dragons in the gospel of pseudo-Matthew:
And having come to a certain cave, and wishing to rest in it, the blessed Mary dismounted from her beast, and sat down with the child Jesus in her bosom. And there were with Joseph three boys, and with Mary a girl, going on the journey along with them. And, lo, suddenly there came forth from the cave many dragons; and when the children saw them, they cried out in great terror. Then Jesus went down from the bosom of His mother, and stood on His feet before the dragons; and they adored Jesus, and thereafter retired. Then was fulfilled that which was said by David the prophet, saying: Praise the Lord from the earth, ye dragons; ye dragons, and all ye deeps. And the young child Jesus, walking before them, commanded them to hurt no man. But Mary and Joseph were very much afraid lest the child should be hurt by the dragons. And Jesus said to them: Do not be afraid, and do not consider me to be a little child; for I am and always have been perfect; and all the beasts of the forest must needs be tame before me.
Jesus Christ, Dragon Master.
biblehub.com...
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: smithjustinb
Your world view has no justification for uniformity in nature, yet you live each day as though when you wake up gravity will work as did the day before, but as a bag of flesh and chemicals and that being all you are you have no ultimate justification for believing that way. The fact that you do believe that way shows you know God and are suppressing that truth because of your sin.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
So the OP won't be long, but I will try and be very active in my respones. I am a Christian and my doctrine is laid out in the Word. So in order to make it fair anyone who joins in the conversation please give a brief summary of what your honest beliefs. Describe the main reasons you do not believe in the Biblical God and the Resurrection of Christ.
I believe gravity will work the same way tomorrow as it did today because logic.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: smithjustinb
I believe gravity will work the same way tomorrow as it did today because logic.
You are begging the question friend. When you say you use a form of logic to reason that gravity will work the same as it did the day before you are not deducing(general to specific) anything, rather you are using induction(Specific to general). In order to preform inductive reasoning one must already assume that gravity works the same today as it did yesterday, or in other words one must assume that the past will be like the future before they begin to reason anything. So I'll say again what justification can you give for the past being like the future from an atheistic world view?
Also I will add another question:
What justification do you have for the laws of logic? You keep telling me that you use logic, but as an atheist you have no way to justify any form of universals.
originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
So you started this thread to destroy atheists then refuse to address any of our valid points based on the belief our form of logic is not logical because we aren't Christians? Smoooth.
That's basically what I'm gathering. He's not making any sense. Its like he's trying to say, in a lot of words, that since we're not Christians, we don't know what logic is.
In order to reason anything, a person must first start with God as He is the objective standard of Truth.