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"And the proof is in the pudding," he said. "Dozens of boards of elections around the country have cited ACORN for our quality efforts to register millions of new voters." The organization said it had registered more than 1.3 million voters in 21 states this election year alone.
Many Republican Party operatives, though, have accused ACORN of being a voter-fraud machine, with its workers turning in registration cards for Mickey Mouse, a 7-year-old girl and the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys. GOP presidential candidate John McCain has joined the chorus, saying in the Oct. 15 presidential debate that the group's activities threatened to "destroy the fabric of American democracy."
ACORN has acknowledged that among its approximately 13,000 workers, at least a few inevitably turn out to be dishonest and create false registration forms. But the organization's leaders said they turn in crooked canvassers to the cops and try to alert election officials to suspicious registrations -- and in most jurisdictions are required to turn in all registration forms, valid or not.
And once the forms are filled out, ACORN has to turn them in. Most states have laws requiring as much, so that partisan workers cannot bin any applications out of personal prejudice. In fact, claims ACORN, they make an effort to label the obviously fake ballots as such.
Still, voting fraud on an election-changing scale seems unlikely, and unnecessary too, given the huge margins that Mr Obama is racking up in many states. To pull it off in the way ACORN is being accused of, a schemer would have to get many thousands of fake registrations past the officials. Then the actual ballots would have to be cast, which would require thousands of impersonators actually to turn up and vote. (Fraudulent absentee ballots, which could be mailed in, are a different proposition, and are subject to their own checks.) The evidence tends to suggest that ACORN has some bad management flaws, not that it is some kind of massive and mildly incompetent conspiracy.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
Talk about dishonest. Go back to your original spiel that I responded to. Right? So, you didn't say this then:
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
So...yeah...whatever happened in this case, this story...the dems are the ones with a track record of getting votes in ANY manner they need to. I choose to believe they are up to something...because they always are.
You're the one who was careless enough with your language to imply that ALL Democrats EVERYWHERE will do WHATEVER they need to in order to win elections.
When confronted with the facts, of course, you squirm and try to redirect blame. As you've done above.
You made and you're making here a ridiculous series of accusations which obviously allows you to feel, how was it that you phrased it "holier than thou" and yet, you provide not a scrap of anything resembling evidence. Your argument is infantile.
As is the perception that somehow magically all votes can be made to even out. If voter fraud (or election fraud) is proven, the invalid votes are removed. There is no mystical one for one vote. It's really not rocket science, not that wingnuts would listen to anything scientific, anyway.
What a blowhard. Why don't you use that Google machine you so pompously referred to and gin up some evidence that we can talk about. Because YOU'RE making the absurd claims, you're generalizing, you're implying that everyone that doesn't share your narrow world-view is dishonest, so why don't YOU back up YOUR claims???
Unless, you can't because you're just splattering whatever comes out of your mouth onto the screen. Prove it, prove anything you've stated.
Or "have the balls" to admit you're just spreading the same lies as the rest of the wingnut media machine.
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With the North Carolina U.S. Senate race in a dead heta, state election officials say they have discovered 145 names on the voting rolls who are ineligible to vote because they are illegal immigrants who have been granted President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals status.
How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.
Nearly 10,000 names on the rolls are tagged by the DMV as “legally present,” according to elections and transportation officials. But that doesn’t mean that all 10,000 are ineligible to vote at this time. These are license holders who were not U.S. citizens when they got a license. They may have been green-card holders, foreign workers or foreign students, for example.
Most have become U.S. citizens since getting a license, according to an estimate by elections officials based on a sample of the overall list.
What a waste of time. EDIT: Boy, was I right.edit on 21Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:44:52 -050014p0920141066 by Gryphon66 because: Noted
The bit about dead voters voting is equally unproven. They find faulty registrants on the voter rolls and then claim that all those folks are voting.
A single Bronx voter listed in official records as being 164 years old led Board of Elections officials to review their files — where they turned up another 849 New Yorkers who were supposedly alive when Abe Lincoln was president.
The stunning discovery came after The Post reported last week that the birth date of Luz Pabellon, a spry 73-year-old who has been living and voting in The Bronx since the 1970s, was recorded as Jan. 1, 1850.
Insurgent Bronx Democrats who have alleged fraud at the Board of Elections said the bizarre practice of punching in bogus ages for voters from a prior century bolsters their case.
“This is crazy. It’s insane,” said William Russell Moore, who challenged Bronx Assemblyman Marcos Crespo in the Democratic primary. “The Board of Elections is very inept. How many people are they doing this to? This is the type of inattention that allows fraud to take place.”
Now I am seeing why they want ID's..they can put a face to the name now. They can now target people by race because an ID card would not lie.
Voter fraud has been in the works for years. At least 52 employees of the left wing group ACORN have been convicted of voter registration fraud. ACORN itself was convicted of the crime of "compensation," paying its registration canvassers bonuses to exceed their quotas. In 2008, 36% of ACORN's voter registrations were invalidated. Left wing political pundit Chris Matthews admitted last year that pretending to call someone from a polling company, then voting their ballot for them, has been happening in big cities since the 1950's.
Voting someone else's ballot for them is cheating the system and essentially giving yourself two votes.
9/26/14: Connecticut Democrat state representative arrested on 19 charges of vote fraud
Democrat State Representative Christina Ayala has been arrested on 19 charges of voting fraud, including: eight misdemeanor counts of fraudulent voting, ten felony counts of primary or enrollment violations and one felony count of tampering with or fabricating physical evidence. Her arraignment is scheduled for October 7. Bridgeport State Rep. Christina Ayala arrested on 19 voting fraud charges , NH Register, September 26, 2014
6/20/14: Dothan commissioner’s girlfriend indicted on voter fraud charges
An Alabama grand jury indicted the girlfriend of Dothan, AL commissioner Amos Newsome on 23 counts of vote fraud in the campaign to re-elect Newsome last August. The alleged vote fraud scheme includes two additional women – one charged with 20 counts of vote fraud, the other charged with 10. Dothan commissioner’s girlfriend indicted on voter fraud charges , Dothan First, June 20, 2014.
6/12/14: Judge orders new election in Weslaco City commissioner race due to vote fraud
A Texas judge invalidated a city commissioner election as a result of vote fraud. The judge carefully evaluated each of the 44 contested votes and found many of them were cast by people who deliberately and illegally voted under a “home is where the heart is” residency standard – they registered at homes belonging to the fraudulently-elected commissioner’s friends, neighbors, and relatives. Judge orders new election in Weslaco City commissioner race , KRGV, June 12, 2014.