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Hong Kong has too many poor people to allow direct elections, leader says

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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 08:37 PM
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HONG KONG—Hong Kong’s Umbrella Movement protesters have been demanding that the city’s top official, CY Leung, step down for weeks now. They may soon be joined by many more of the city’s 7 million residents, after a controversial interview last night in which Leung suggested that election reforms sought by the protestors would invite undue influence from the city’s poor.


Don't want those poor lazy losers stepping out of place! And a direct democracy isn't really a good idea it's mob rule that never works out.



“If it’s entirely a numbers game—numeric representation—then obviously you’d be talking to half the people in Hong Kong [that] earn less than US$1,800 a month. You would end up with that kind of politics and policies.”


What's he's saying, they would vote to redistribute wealth in a more socialist manner or is he alluding to something else?



edit on 10/26/2014 by onequestion because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 08:49 PM
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Only a certain economic class can vote?

Can't have the un-wealthy speaking out for themselves can they?

They should Do as in the US. The wealthy create illusions of choice to steer the poor to vote for the choice already in place. At least the voters THINK they are accomplishing something. Keeps the masses docile.

Peace



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: jude11

Yeah well I need a slave class to boss around, people I can be better then. Something to keep my overinflated narcissistic ego on its pedastol. No but realistically we can't all be winners, so the majority of you have to suffer, by majority I mean 90+. There just isn't simply enough to go around guys.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 09:22 PM
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Sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

Oh yeah, conservatives on this site and others.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: CB328
Sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

Oh yeah, conservatives on this site and others.


You don't understand.
Only those to stupid to get a photo ID should not be able to vote.
Poor people with IDs are welcome.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: CB328
Sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

Oh yeah, conservatives on this site and others.


The Hong Kong Elite should welcome the "poor" votes.

The "poor" and high crime areas always vote for Democrats in the U.S. and yet crime and poverty continue to excel.

Something must be working.




posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

We don't want to let the dogs just do whatever they want!

At least they are honest in Hong Kong.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
The "poor" and high crime areas always vote for Democrats in the U.S. and yet crime and poverty continue to excel.


I'm not disagreeing with your statement here. It's a bit "general" in how it's applied, but true none the less. I'm curious as to WHY you think that this is in fact true that most poor and troubled areas tend to vote for Democrats???

Conservative Republicans often are very outspoken as being the best choice when it comes to fiscal policy, benefits of free market, etc. You would think that of all the areas who would vote for Conservatives based just on fiscal policy alone that they would be the choice rather than Dems.

So in your opinion why aren't they the choice of the poor?? Do other policies come first for them or is it something else???



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

The independent party should be the choice of the poor.min fact get rid of republicans and democrats. I vote a permanent ban on both parties hence forth!



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:09 PM
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To vote, one should have to be at least 21 yo, head of a household, and have paid at least $1000 in income tax for the year.

We have teenagers, morons, feminazis, and welfare-folks deciding major issues. With the Tribe in control of all the media, they effectively can manipulate results anyway they choose.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: CB328
Sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

Oh yeah, conservatives on this site and others.


Maybe you can link all these posts where Conservatives claim poor people should have no say.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Stockholm Syndrome.

MSM Syndrome.

Controlled Opposition.




posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: Tusks
To vote, one should have to be at least 21 yo, head of a household, and have paid at least $1000 in income tax for the year.

We have teenagers, morons, feminazis, and welfare-folks deciding major issues. With the Tribe in control of all the media, they effectively can manipulate results anyway they choose.


I think 18 y/o and a citizen of the US should be the only requirements. At 18 you are considered an adult like any other. I see no reason for Head of Household or Tax payments to be an issue. Those are nothing but economic issues that have nothing to do with everyone having a voice when it comes to voting.

That second part really shows what a bias you have toward people and a democratic system of voting and other than the "teenagers" are just based off your opinion and bias toward people who you don't approve of for personal reasons, which are not reasons to deny them their right to vote. I always find it amusing when someone is so open about being unfair and biased for personal reasons when it comes to Voting.

Do you live in the US?? I would love to hear your rationale in how you honestly justify those statements.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: mOjOm

Stockholm Syndrome.

MSM Syndrome.

Controlled Opposition.





lol. Stockholm Syndrom is a creative answer anyway. I'm not sure how that could be logically shown to be the case, but I asked for your opinion not proof, so I'll leave it at that.

I've never heard of MSM Syndrome.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by Controlled Opposition. Controlled by who and opposed to what and why??



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

not to get off topic...

Brainwashing Techniques Designed to Promote Acceptance of the Coming Genocide

take with grain of salt.

back to Hong Kong.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

If you have to be told, you are too young or inexperienced, or otherwise unable to accept an answer. Some things must be individually figured out to be accepted.
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:52 PM
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Interesting. To me MSM Syndrome and Controlled Opposition seem kinda like the same thing though. Their both Mind Control or Mental Conditioning through repetition and stimulus.

The problem with using those as the answers though is that their is constant conditioning happening to us all the time from multiple sources. In this case as to my question to you, there is both Media Conditioning happening from both the Left and the Right. So I don't know how that would answer the question of Why so many poor people choose to vote Dem.

But then again I only asked for your opinion on why, not evidence or anything else, so if that's all you want to say about it, that's fine too. I'm don't think that is much of answer in realistic terms though. But you didn't exactly elaborate very much either, so I had to assume a lot of details about how those answers would actually be applied.

Thanx for playing. You may now go back to your original scheduled programming.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: CB328
Sounds familiar, where have I heard that before?

Oh yeah, conservatives on this site and others.


The Hong Kong Elite should welcome the "poor" votes.

The "poor" and high crime areas always vote for Democrats in the U.S. and yet crime and poverty continue to excel.

Something must be working.






Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican




Ultimately, each measure of the poorest states has its drawbacks. But the supplemental poverty measure offers a reason to temper the evidence from traditional measures that demonstrate the statement to be True. For that reason, we rule the "9 in 10" claim Mostly True.


It’s a Fact: Republican Run Red States Have America’s Highest Poverty Rates




Many pundits assert the conditions in southern red states are the fault of Republican-dominated legislatures, but without voters electing Republicans and teabaggers to preserve the deplorable conditions southern states would not lead the nation in poverty.
Unfortunately, the same people electing Republicans at the state level vote for Republicans in Congress because they promise to oppose Democrats and President Obama’s campaign to disarm Southern state residents’ of their guns and bibles.
It is certain that if President Obama and Democrats supported religious-driven bigotry and gun fanaticism, red southern state voters would reciprocate and support policies giving them decent wages, healthcare, and domestic programs to combat poverty. However, since that will never happen they will vote to elect Republicans to Congress to impose their deplorable living conditions on the entire population and spread their real America to every state in the Union.


In fact here is some Pro Republicans running and after trying out Republican experiment..a hefty tax cut for the rich..which all right wingers thinks works.


In Kansas, Brownback tried a red-state ‘experiment.’ Now he may be paying a political price

Hong Kong is the future of America if the right has it's way. Denying those they deem unworthy of having a voice.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 11:00 PM
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I'm hardly too young to be told not to vote. Nor am I inexperienced either. But this isn't about me or my voting status. This is about your reasons for accepting and denying people their right to vote for the reasons you gave earlier. I'm unable to accept your answer for the reasons I already gave, which in short, is because your reasons don't make sense in a Democratic Process or in a Free Society. They don't make sense for a Dictatorship either. The only way they make sense is when applied to a False Democracy that only gives the impression that everyone has an equal vote. Basically, it would only apply to a system built on personal bias of an Elite Group of Individual and based on deception and all voting is actually pointless and controlled. (Some might say that is exactly where we are headed too.)

Is that the kind of System you support?? What kind of System do you want??
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 11:22 PM
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How about a system where mature, experienced, responsible taxpayers who have families make the choices--- and not the young and mostly foolish/propagandized folks, or the people who are demanding handouts, or the people who are so hung up on their sexual perversions that that is the major influence in all their decisions?

The wealth of a society is both cultural and economic. Our culture of Christian responsibility and individual freedom has been hi-jacked by our enemy ---those who currently espouse "multi-culturalism" for every nation save one.

Economically, wealth means an abundance of goods and services produced by citizens, and the full employment that goes with the freedom to produce and retain one's wealth. Unfortunately, many of our welfare folks and Liberals have become convinced that jobs and wealth come from the government.

This is pretty simple, but folks frequently can't accept some things in their mind until it dawns on them--ie, my explanation probably won't help you much.



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