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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hounddoghowlie
She's right. It makes little sense to quarantine those with no symptoms.
Do we want FEMA camp style quarantines? NO! But it has become obvious that even intelligent people get pretty stupid when they can't be honest enough with themselves about possible symptoms they are having during the incubation period of this virus. As to the specific topic of this thread ... How will mass quarantines work? It works by preventing MASS quarantine. All volunteer health care workers going to any country with any Ebola cases will be INFORMED IN ADVANCE they will be quarantined in a specific location with comfortable amenities upon their return. They would not be crammed together like a hospital ward but have individual rooms. Since they are health care workers, they would be allowed to monitor their own temperatures and report on any symptoms they have in a video log. Personally I would err on the safety side and require a 40 day quarantine period. They would be financially compensated for this time just as if it were a vacation. Considering all the horror they have likely seen, they would be encouraged to use this time to "decompress" and share their experiences and insights, preferably in a video which can be viewed by future volunteers to prepare them.
A mass quarantine can be prevented if we make it clear to these individuals that they will be quarantined upon their return "just in case" to prevent spreading the virus. Yes, we should "treat Ebola in Africa" to prevent the spread worldwide. Any citizen that voluntarily goes to W. Africa will be subjected to quarantine and no one else from W. Africa will be allowed to enter the US until this crisis has passed.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
I just find it ironic that the people who are so eager to put this woman through the ringer are the same people who scream bloody murder because they are inconvenienced by the TSA going through security at airports. More people have died in America from acts of terrorism than from ebola. Way more. So, those of you who don't like going through security at airports? Suck it up and grow a pair, and quit your whinin'. A little inconvenience and invasion of your privacy won't hurt you. It's for the common good, right?
originally posted by: Tatanka
Common sense has gone out the window. I'm sorry, but if you are going to travel to ebola infested areas of the world, work with ebola patients and insist on returning the states, you *should* be quarantined to protect the rest of your fellow countrymen and women. Nurse Hickox attitude is disgusting and full of entitlement. I fully support these governors actions to try and keep ebola from spreading in their states. As it is, we should be restricting air travel, another common sense method gone by the wayside. It almost seems as if someone wants everyone to get sick. I'm looking at our "president" to prove me wrong. He *should* be protecting American citizens *cough cough*.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Tatanka
We'll keep sending them to school to infect other children because golly gee, quarantining them is a "knee jerk reaction". Come ON...... !
You can quarantine a house, even a village. You cannot effectively quarantine a population of millions or an area of millions of square miles.
When they exhibit symptoms.
Okay.... when... exactly when.... does a person become contagious? Exactly when?
Then there will be no end to the quarantine. The WHO says that 2% of those who eventually display symptoms can take longer than 42 days to do so. So, how long do you want the quarantine to last without symptoms?
That is the WHOLE PURPOSE of quarantine. Waiting it out to make sure a person does not have the virus.
Except that no one knew about this unilateral decision by New York and New Jersey until it was recently announced. Except that volunteers will become scarce and that will degrade the ability to fight the epidemic where it is.
It should be understood upfront before they ever leave the States that quarantine WILL happen when they return.
Why? What treatment can they recieve that would help them if they are not symptomatic?
I am a HCW and frankly I would expect it. It will also be in their best interest to be in quarantine in the case that that do have the virus.
originally posted by: SilverStarGazer
I think the issue is more of how she was treated by the people at the airport and hospital. You CAN follow procedure AND treat people with compassion, dignity and respect.