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posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 12:22 PM
a reply to: MystikMushroom

I was thinking along the lines of Planetary alignment MM. Whether this was a natural event or a manipulated event i.e. Alien Intervention, i don't know. It seems to me Saturn plays a huge part in this via time manipulation. I also quite like the ideas of some folk regarding the Electric Universe theory, it seems to explain weird events in the sky recorded by the ancients.

posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 12:54 PM
You yourself are the keeper of the key to the cage that imprisons you, find your key and be forever free. It is not a physical key that resides within you. but it has been there all your life. Go get it, free yourself, and leave this doomed ball of rock forever more.

posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 01:14 PM
Any kind of negative outlook on purpose (higher or not) is going to be rare or discouraged, as anybody who has conviction about it's likely dead or at least not doing well. For example, if I was a chicken in a slaughterhouse and believed my only purpose was to feed humans in my prime while living in cramped despicable living spaces on the way up, it'd make it harder. However, if I believed my purpose was to serve out a sentence and then be released into a sort of heaven upon death, it might help. What makes us BELIEVE?

What if we're chickens in a slaughterhouse? Humans? How could we know? If this is all we ever knew, we might ask if it's the best of all worlds? Well, it's the best of what we have available, until we know better. Speculating about what else is out there and/or what's beyond death won't make us know. So to this end, we can't know if we're chickens in a slaughterhouse unless we possess the knowledge either by acquiring it or being given it.

I don't think a chicken KNOWS it's in a slaughterhouse and its living conditions are abysmal because it has never known better. Although it's possible evolution has created a set of genes which are not friendly with slaughterhouses, so perhaps this can make chickens BELIEVE in positive or negative purposes?

There're some who've suggested BELIEF is part of our brain, just as speech or emotions or instinctive fight or flight impulses. So what would make us believe in a negative or positive purposes?

Imagine you're born in a concentration camp and for 20 years it's all you know. Nobody has informed you about the outside world (I know, hard to believe...), so you don't know about it. You only know a few words in different languages. You won't KNOW living in a concentration camp is NOT the best of all worlds. Will the fact you live in cramped degraded conditions cause you to have a negative outlook? I do not think so because you know nothing better. However, if yoru genes are not compliant it could result in a negative outlook. Odds are if someone is alive they have a positive outlook.

My main point in all this mess? Well, negative outlooks are more rare becuase they don't assist nature and probably more often than not lead to early death. Whether it's a chicken in a slaughterhouse or a chicken in the Garden of Eden, negative or positive outlooks are possible. Without actually knowing factually whether your circumstnaces are negative or degraded, I think hte bulk of our outlook is controlled by genes and it favors optimistic regimes.
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posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 03:20 PM
a reply to: DrunkYogi

The drying up of the land now known as
the Sahara desert actually. It's amazing

Yes, there is a 'metaphysical element' as
well...but starting with 'physics' is a really
good idea...before getting lost in the 'meta

The 'gnostics' and other ancient luminaries
would concur...get a basic edemacation
first.....THEN if you want to exceed current
boundaries. ...THEN carefully poke around
the 'realm of the 'archons''.....but most
people who do that get used....


posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 04:53 PM
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I am fascinated by your use of the word "archon". this past June, during a mountain-top ritual on the dawn of the solstice, I received a "channeling" (I do not normally consider myself to be a channeler) from an entity whom identified itself as the "archon". I have no idea if it is relevant to this thread, but if you are interested, I may post the hand-written copy.

any additional information you could provide on such an entity would be helpful.

posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 05:47 PM
a reply to: tgidkp

My perception is that the human racial
unconscious itself is functionally 'the
archons'. Now whether there truly are
'external archons' is anybodys guess.

The very concept of internal/external is
iffy in our (probably) dark plasma
dominated quantum many world's

But the droids you are looking for
are probably the ones written about
in gnosticism.

Just Wikipedia archons/gnosticism
and you will learn a bunch of very
iffy but fascinating material.

Take it with a barrel of salt.


posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 08:56 PM
all of the reading indicates that the Archons a a distinctly BAD influence on humanity. that was not my impression at all. and I agree with you that the entity did not seem to be singular being, but rather, a sort of collective intelligence representing a whole array of thought-forms.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 09:25 PM
If I were believe that if there is any trap, it would be something you are choosing to do after death.
You're making yourself attempt to redo things that you don't feel you accomplished successfully in that life.
I believe if you focus and meditate on breaking the cycle (or any pattern of any kind) you can break it.
I wish you the best of luck in your future travels.

posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 10:52 PM
a reply to: MystikMushroom
It's more likely they thought us into existence.

posted on Nov, 3 2014 @ 11:17 PM
This topic is the ultimate conspiracy theory. It sends us to the very bottom of the rabbit hole.

All evidence currently available is of the anecdotal type. But I know that some anecdotal accounts describe real events, and there is a whole lot of anecdotal accounts of a non-physical dimension, and perhaps evidence of the so-called matrix has been experienced there if some of the accounts are accurate. Personal experience is by far the most powerful evidence from a personal point of view. Me, I lack this experience, so I'm not sure what the truth is, but my mind is open.

In my view, it's possible. So I'm very interested in this topic. The answer is the biggest answer to the biggest question for humans living on Earth. The question? What is the ultimate reality to human existence on planet Earth?

posted on Nov, 4 2014 @ 12:29 AM
a reply to: droid56

If you want a quick way, look into Pure Land Buddhism.. I don't know if it is to be believed, it kinda sounds to good to be true.
But I guess it's worth a try.

The only other way would also be a spiritual path, can't get out of the wheel of reincarnation without applying yourself spiritually.

That is all.

posted on Nov, 4 2014 @ 03:31 AM
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I found this Kev.

Schmidt belongs to the group of scientists who think there is evidence for sudden changes in the Sahara. “Given the very strong dependence of vegetation on water availability, the end of the ‘Green Sahara’ came about quite suddenly around 5,500 years ago,” Schmidt said. “Thus, a very slow change in the orbit (led) to an abrupt collapse in that ecosystem.”

The changes in the Earth’s orbital tilt and precession (or the wobbling motion) occur because of gravitational forces emanating from other bodies in the solar system

This corresponds to the belief (by some) that the Kali Yuga started around 5,000 years ago. Kali Yuga as you know Kev is the Dark Age.

According to Hindu historical tradition, Kali Yuga began with the death of Krishna more than 5,000 years ago. The Puranas are emphatic on the cultural degradation that set in after the Mahabharata war, which is seen as one of the most important turning points in ancient Indian history. Krishna, according to traditional belief, participated in that transition.

Most people reckon the Kali Yuga lasts 5,000 years and i agree with this. So the Kali Yuga has ended or is ending in around about now.

Taking all of this into consideration then i reckon that to enter the next age or Golden Age some kind of event has to happen regarding Earth. If the fall was caused by a tilting of the Earth then maybe something will happen to rectify this event. Something like Uranus ( the return of the bridegroom ) usurping Saturn's ( the planet of time ) influence on Earth. Remember the Ego is based in time, the planetary event that caused time (Ego) to reign from 5,000 years ago to present and caused the Shara Desert was most likely something to do with Saturn. The return of the Earth's bridegroom Uranus could cause the Earth to tilt in to a more favourable axis. Kicking Saturn's butt. Hence the book of Revelation in the Bible.

posted on Nov, 4 2014 @ 08:40 AM
a reply to: DrunkYogi

Humans are the only creatures who can take a nice indisputable
fact (the drying up of a region of land) and turn that into a huge
tale involving multiple hidden forces and entities, none of whom
may exist at all.

That sort of thing only developed in full with the 'fall'.

Or maybe, people got thirsty, and really annoyed that 'god had
kicked them out of the land of milk and plenty' and were driven
mad and only the best killers survived.

To extreme paraphrase and leave out 80% of it.

I don't dispute we are in a terrible phase. I certainly hope that
we are now turning the corner. I'm certainly aware of the
mythology you speak of.

I'd urge you to read about well-documented history of real-world
facts first.. then if necessary, and ONLY if necessary research
less solid material.

Just my recommendation.


posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 04:33 AM
a reply to: akushla99

you stop when you realise you have painted yourself into the corner - who trapped you?

As Itisnowagain would say. "there is no painted floor". hehe

Seriously the more of these Matrix/Soul threads I read I am starting to suspect that when we die we must avoid going into the tunnel of light. Seems like a convenient trap to me.

Is any one else of the opinion that the tunnel of light is to be avoided?

posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 11:45 AM
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Absolutely! It is clever that you were able to deduce this.

Schumann Resonance

You may be thinking, "How is it possible for a Gray to show love by being a spirit guide?" Please keep in mind that they are using technologies beyond our comprehension in order to wipe out our previous life's memories. The Schumann Resonance on Earth has been at 7.83hz for what many people believe to be thousands of years. Recently, the resonance has been rising as high as 8.15 cycles per second. You may be thinking, "How is it possible for a Gray to show love by being a spirit guide?" Please keep in mind that they are using technologies beyond our comprehension in order to wipe out our previous life's memories. The Schumann Resonance on Earth has been at 7.83hz for what many people believe to be thousands of years. Recently, the resonance has been rising as high as 8.15 cycles per second.

You can find the daily Schumann Resonance here. It is on a Russian website and is translated into English. Just click the "Frequency" link on the left hand side of the page.

What if the tunnel of light was capable of creating a resonance of 1,000, 10,000 or even 1,000,000 cycles per second? What if the Grays were impervious to the Schumann Resonance or were programmed to appear as spirit guides, upon death of the physical vessel, to convince us to enter the tunnel of light? At this point in time, you would feel immense love and would innately trust them, based on an artificial program designed to keep you trapped into the recycling system of reincarnation. Ultimately, it's not love that one would feel; it's just another artificial system of control to keep us locked in to this current system of negative energy.

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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 12:26 PM

Why am I not able to remember my connection to Source?

But you may ask, “Why am I not able to remember my connection to Source?” The clues are all around you through nature, animals, friends, family, etc… The divine love and appreciation we feel for these things are a microcosm of the love we feel when we return back to the Source. In a 3D world of duality, where fear is constantly imposed on us, it’s sometimes difficult to remember the divine spark of light that we all have within us.
There is nothing that can connect to Source - there is only the Source.
It is as if the Source has forgotten that it is all that is and has dreamt up other than itself.
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posted on Nov, 5 2014 @ 09:44 PM
a reply to: Egyptia
Great video on that link you provided which blows the trap wide open in revelation..Extraordinary how much is hidden in plain sight, and the ways in which we are so conditioned to not pay attention. There are a myriad of clues contained as to the condition of our enslavement....mind blowing viewing.

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posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 02:54 AM
a reply to: droid56

Are you with Scientology? Sounds a lot like the talks of crap-people...

posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 03:20 AM
a reply to: Peeple

Are you with Scientology? Sounds a lot like the talks of crap-people..

haha...first you obviously know nothing of scientology...and about this thread...well...worlds apart

posted on Nov, 6 2014 @ 03:28 AM
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Why it's what they believe, right? Alien spirits trapped on Earth torturing humans making them unhappy? It's not that far from the discussion? Just humans being the crops and not possessed... Sounds just as far from every reality to me.

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