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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: DrunkYogi

The dark forces don't consume our suffering from my experiences, they consume our creativity and repurpose our authority. They merely engage in making us suffer to keep us in the game and to drive us ever forward on a path of new creation. This world didn't have that creative spark when it was first created. Whoever we are is the intelligence behind the reason that despite of entropy this world is getting more complex and wonderful with each passing epoch. The more we invest of ourselves in this world, the less of us we have, although from my experience if you know how to tap into the source of light and to well light up from within yourself, that problem can be easily remedied. We are generators feeding a planet of dependent competitors. They don't need our suffering, they need our life.




posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: DrunkYogi
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No way to force it. As Krishnamurti say's, The Truth is a Pathless Land.


Brilliantly said DrunkYogi and not like a drunk Yogi at all lol...........the truth is a pathless land indeed nor can it be ever forced for when we try we are met with resistance.

Interestingly I wonder if the suppression of our pineal gland is what keeps us from being able to expand our knowledge and consciousness? Is the pineal connected to our soul memory? Would we be able to access our many agreements of entrapment that we can't remember?

After all, our pineal gland was purposefully suppressed along with our DNA to keep us from our own powers and abilities otherwise it would be difficult to trap and cage us as we have been.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: Nechash

I can't really say that i know that much about it Nechash, there is a lot of information out there but what is true and what is not, i don't know.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: Egyptia

The Pineal Gland appears to be very important. It apparently becomes calcified when you drink fluoridated water etc

www.naturalnews.com...

I hear that iodine is useful to decalcify.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Nechash
a reply to: DrunkYogi

The dark forces don't consume our suffering from my experiences, they consume our creativity and repurpose our authority. They merely engage in making us suffer to keep us in the game and to drive us ever forward on a path of new creation. This world didn't have that creative spark when it was first created. Whoever we are is the intelligence behind the reason that despite of entropy this world is getting more complex and wonderful with each passing epoch. The more we invest of ourselves in this world, the less of us we have, although from my experience if you know how to tap into the source of light and to well light up from within yourself, that problem can be easily remedied. We are generators feeding a planet of dependent competitors. They don't need our suffering, they need our life.


Despite a little error in the past still like that answer. Because not wishing to learn in harsh methods is a very respected view on higher levels and many do not. However, because of the catalyst and growth factor, and learning, things that are errors and bad, do continue here for a time, because there is potential and growth and the silver lining is there. This is easiest to speak of when viewing ones own suffering however, and should not be attributed to anothers.

But its a more positive way to see the world giving more potential good to come out of even bad situations.

However the past cycles, were not boring. They were the Equality The closest thing I could find to the work on this school, the family groupings, would be akin to the Essenes. The Way. The Equality. Mother's energies respected, included and understood. We really did have reigns change when predators took over and they depopulated quite a few planets.

Those running this planet, for some they may be those predators from long ago because I recognize their energy. The only other explanation is due to early childhood initiations in their elite families, they may be hosting takeovers from entities that are recognized. Either way, they are a repelling energy, oppositional to anything I am. This universe, due to the polarity, has opposites attracting. That is the flesh side. Spirit its law of affinity. Birds of a feather flock together and opposite magnetic energies repel. Which explains why certain people, even pictures of them, nearly knocked me out of my chair.

We are not here to be under their thumbs either. The prime directive is to free this planet. This means to uplift others, give them hope and for people to participate in awakening. And problem solving, trying to bring happiness to their families and any hardships or wounds there.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: cloaked4u

Yes its about mind set. Beliefs. And its important to teach others to forgive themselves and all others, to see that all lives can contribute to the mass learning, individual and collective. So to move on with Family not hold back in time outs or abyss or self imposed hell, or perpetual hardships in reincarnated lives.

Some don't have the same degree of choice however, for some it is something that is being worked on behind the scenes with a team and Higher Self and sometimes repeats happen for a reason, serious events need to be straightened out for example. But I still think there is a positive method and there is negative consequence under the wrong jurisdiction. And the latter is always to be avoided. That people need to truly seek to understand others and themselves and not allow shame to hold them back from healing up and finding the best next steps, but to have gratitude also for what earth is teaching us. Not just what we can do, but what we'd like to learn to do, and even what we don't want.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 08:14 PM
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You have to juggle with one hand, sing, hop on one foot and rub the top of your head all at the same time to break the reincarnation cycle. How many lifetimes does it take?!



posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 12:20 AM
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We might be well into the 6th great extinction of life on our planet, which would normally be a very sad event. But what if the matrix was operating and nobody was there to observe its limitations? Not so sad. The archons would seek other prey.
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posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 05:35 AM
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You cannot escape the machine and anything physical is just an illusion of the mind

Physics is just the rule set of the game/simulation that we are in and as we age our brains/memory becomes corupted and needs to be replace on the fly like a hot plugable disk drive.

I am not sure if we get backed up to a database but logic would say not because yesterdays calculations would not be much use and actions we performed during our lifes would have already been archived if needed.

Plug me in sex will be everywhere within 20 years so if computers can feed the brain then only a fool would say that we are not living inside some type of computer if you ask me.



posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 06:08 AM
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Interestingly I wonder if the suppression of our pineal gland is what keeps us from being able to expand our knowledge and consciousness? Is the pineal connected to our soul memory? Would we be able to access our many agreements of entrapment that we can't remember?

After all, our pineal gland was purposefully suppressed along with our DNA to keep us from our own powers and abilities otherwise it would be difficult to trap and cage us as we have been.


RE: Pineal Gland. Did You know there is an altar where One can pray to the PINE cone at The Vatican? Also check out Frank's stick, 3/4 way up there is a PINE cone.

"Many" of the 1,000s of re-incarnation recalls are with children, this 'may' be because their Pineal Gland hasn't had enough time to 'calcify' and block their past Lives. It could also explain why municipalities continue to add fluoride to water supplies...



posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: droid56

Greetings and Salutations- What do You mean by You are 'old'? You're an Eternal Being, a "spirit" having a human experience... You are NOT Your body and thinking that You are "may" place an 'attachment' You don't want any attachments when it is time to go. If You enjoy reading books there are a few that address this very issue.

The Tibetan Book Of Living And Dying.
The Tibetan Book Of The Dead.
Talking To Heaven.

namaste



posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: JimNasium

"municipalities continue to add fluoride to water supplies... "

I think they are adding a lot more than just fluoride these days and teeth are failling out as fast as ever so what happened to all the propaganda about dentists all being out of a job or did we need to keep them so they could put something even worse than lead in our fillings.

Yes, Yes i know, i need to take my medications right



posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: DrunkYogi

I find it very interesting my friend, that you value the words of Krishnamurti
so much, as he was quite the rebel; as a matter of fact he dealt quite the
blow to the theosophical movement. There's a lot of people who think that
he was a 'failed luminary'.

I for one am rather fond of rebels as you might expect.

As for the topic at hand.. it certainly appears that human civilization
en-mass is trapped does it not? Trapped into repeating history
endlessly until they go extinct.

It should be interesting to see whether humans go extinct or not,
as if they do, then the 'farming human cattle' theory might be
wrong. It's a heck of a way to test a theory however!

;-)

Kev



posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 08:54 AM
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I don't believe anyone is trapped, if they open their minds and hearts to understand others and have compassion. And also start to see through the world.

Following laws and rules, there are no such things. The rule and Law is LOVE. That would be implying that the free and rather selfish mystery school follower, who can seek and study and meditate and attempt to achieve light body formation, is more important that the overwhelmed domestic mother or grandmother attempting to raise up her children, her children's children and perhaps others, who nearly drops dead from exhaustion and doesnt have the luxury of those studies.

Whereas direct message from above: Grandmother's and Mother's outrank generals in the Good groups.

I see gravity as far more important. And the gravity of murder is like dark star stuff. Raise frequency. Love.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 12:58 AM
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Unity 99 said, "I don't believe anyone is trapped, if they open their mind and hearts to understand others and have compassion." This statement is a perfect example of the love and light brigade, but the question is whether it tells us how we should think about the question as to whether we are trapped in an endless cycle of reincarnation to provide food for non-3D others.

Compassion is a good thing, but those that have established this system are in no way interested in compassion. Power and food is their only interest.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 04:15 AM
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You can look at life from a much bigger perspective, look at ants, look at cattle, look at us - I'm sure that emotional outbursts manifest a type of energy, and with all energy, it is consumed and produced. These beings that you speak of exist in a different world to us, I have encountered them, and yes they do feed upon energies. However, even astral travellers note that there are a variety of "astral critters" that also feed on our energies like mosquitoes. If you look at life in general, it is a cycle of consumption and production - we too eat physical food, and think of the life of cattle and the terror of the slaughterhouse!

The point is, is that it is all apart of this reality, and I do not see reincarnation as being a bad thing, after all we are physical beings, there might be some of us that have "walked in" and possessed physical beings at a young age, and thus they might return to the spiritual plane, however, most of us are physical, and we return to Earth to live and reproduce.

Earth is wonderful is it not, try to escape the delusion that we are "supposed" to exist in a higher plane, we are supposed to be what we are.

Can you see us in an innocent light, before we were given teachings about the spiritual plane - someone came along and decreed that we are supposed to be spiritual beings, on a higher plane, and that this world is suffering. If we were not told as such, we would be happy as whom and what we are.

I will tell you something you might not like to hear - even spirits die, they are composed of energy, exactly as we are composed of energy, old spirits eventually fade away, and even souls lose their power and pop out of existence.

Thereby, there are spirits that feed on spiritual energy in order to survive as such.

I believe that what truly are is impossible to measure, and this goes for all forms of sentience, no matter what plane they might happen to inhabit.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 04:40 AM
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Cling to nothing in this world. Not personal relationships, not your favorite actors, not your iPhone, nothing.

When they offer you a choice, you must choose to not choose.

web.photodex.com...
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 11:39 AM
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Not exactly. We are bound to the Earth with the ability to ascend and be born from the Earth.
Some spirits re-incarnate after death because they cannot comprehend the Creator, or refuse to, and see it as the only course of action that makes sense. They will re-incarnate until they turn to the Light.
Some spirits don't move on but don't re-incarnate either - they just remain attached to places or people, and can become something like energy vampires.

Don't be afraid. We all go Home, whether we make it there on our own or damn ourselves over and over and have to be helped.

Love moves us closer and nourishes us. The strongest expression of love is to serve others above yourself.



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: droid56
designed to provide emotional food for non-physical beings.

Many years ago, a poster here told me that he thought that everything has to do with energy. It wouldn't surprise me if our emotions and our prayers were feeding energy to non-physical beings. And maybe our emotional energy and prayer energy actually created thought forms that get hungry for more energy. Maybe ...



posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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So...you start to paint the floor of your garage...beginning near the door, the whole floor gets painted before you...you stop when you realise you have painted yourself into the corner - who trapped you?

Å99



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