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Hidden Hand and His Hidden Keys

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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 01:05 PM
a reply to: Egyptia

Is 2012 harvest time?

Another excellent (and very insightful) question. Thank you.
The higher the quality of the question, the more depth I can give to my answer. It all has to do with the Laws of Confusion and Free Will.

Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru".

That answer right there, says a lot.
I don't buy this whole thing, sorry. It was a little slip up, but it was a slip up nevertheless.
It's 2014, and the Harvest never happened, the famous Nibiru never came.

I think this person was roleplaying, and made a tiny mistake, to seem more doom and gloom, but it now being 2014 we can all say for sure the Harvest and the return of Nibiru never happened.

I'm not saying elite bloodlines don't exist, I'm just saying he is not one of them.

And then he keeps on writing about how the Mayans are right, and the Harvest will come on that date, and then a new world, new earth will come, etc...

Just another bloke who believed the end of the world was coming in 2012, and wanted to seem important, and play prophet.

Read for yourself. Link above.

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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 02:48 PM
a reply to: Egyptia

Awfully funny for people who hold their cards so close to their chest to suddenly come out screaming, "get the heck out of this planet." Flying close to the sun can be fun, but it burns you up. I can't imagine what flying directly into the sun might do. I'll continue going into the light when I wish for my own purposes, but until I can see a solid benefit to being "harvested," I'll just stay here, thank you very much. ;p I think the illuminati wants all the enlightened ones sacrificing themselves or rushing headlong off into oblivion so they can stay here and maintain the keys to the kingdom. If rushing full speed off of this world is such a great idea, why are they still here?

posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 02:50 PM
I enjoy reading everyone's opinion, we are all so wonderfully varied and dispersed in thought which is good since such a flock is hard to reign in.
Lately I have heard that Alien interview and how it was a sort of sock puppet that communicated only with the nurse. What does this have to do with HH hh 44? Well if you listen to how the military interviewed the alien, they pretty much tried to find its weaknesses. But it was their worst nightmare, see it was the most uncontrollable being that could be imagined, to the point of creating hopelessness. Except for something invisible which would observe and not interact without you knowing, which would make more sense but it wouldn't be a messenger now would it. The message is it's mere presence and the stirring it created. Sort of what HH did here so long ago, create a stir.
Humans on the other hand seem to be the most controllable being possibly imagined; with needs, wants, hopes, ignorance you name it we want/have/suffer from it. The most controllable being, yet are we? Ask yourself why isn't it simple then? To control us? And who in their right mind would incarnate in this weak body? Why the most hardy of souls thats who! Wouldn't you be a huge wuss making a doll body so you can't be manipulated?? Wussies! Bring it on, we fight in the sleep of ignorance!

posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:01 PM
After the soul harvest what are "they" going to do with all the collected souls? Will those who still have their souls be able to trade theirs in for a new one. Will there be retail "soul boutiques" or souls offered online thru Amazon.

Currently my soul has been in an accident and sustained some damage to the posterior. I can't afford a new one but a low mileage unit might interest me if the price was right.

posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:40 PM
I try not to read too much into some of the channelers' and alien messages.
there are other planets in our solar system, other solar systems, huge galaxies etc, we dont really know much about life elsewhere.

we might be 'beginners' and they are 'old timers' , who can say for sure ?

there might be paranormal and supernatural stuff happening all the time and we dont notice

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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:53 PM
a reply to: Egyptia

Hi Egyptia,

There have been one or two threads recently dealing with synchronicity that I posted in as I find myself in the middle of a synchronicity wave right now (which doesn't happen that often) - but this one is the capper. I even mentioned that a quick perusal of the Recent Posts page shows all kinds of disparate dots connecting.

I've found myself thinking of Hidden Hand a lot in the past week or so and I've not thought of him/her in a long time and then along comes your OP.

I'm not exactly sure of what it means but there are other things going on around me too and I'm still trying to connect all the dots - assuming I even have them all right now. I have a sense there's more to come.

With respect to your premise regarding keys I definitely agree to some extent but am not yet sure if I fully agree with your conclusions. I'll have to read this this thread again and think about it a little.

I'm not a "new-ager" so to speak, but I find much in the realm of metaphysics that resonates with me and when I come across something that does, it gets my attention. I'll obviously be following this thread as it plays out and if I have anything to offer, I'll be sure to post.

posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 04:01 PM

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: Egyptia

This is the only topic that really matters, IMHO, the rest are superfluous. Too bad we don't have a specific forum for this topic, something like "The Big Picture", or "What it really all means" etc.

I'm just curious, Hidden Hand posted his thread in 2008, you have been a member since 2009, what spurred this seemingly sudden decision to start a thread about it? Did you just discover the Hidden Hand thread? Or did you just discover some info that gave new meaning to the Hidden Hand thread?

Thanks PlanetXisHere, appreciated. I feel that there should be more focus on anything that can help us to connect the dots and undo the nature of this programmed set of illusions that they force us to believe is 'reality'. It really is only their 'game' we are living and have been for thousands of years. I can't help but feel now more than ever because of the aid of technologies, pharma, banking system and conglomerate control of every facet of society.

Yes it is interesting that it was prior to my coming here otherwise it would have been quite interesting indeed. I was actually reading his account after the fact and it wasn't until lately that it kept being on my mind. Then I read somewhere that he chose ATS because he felt that it was the most intelligent one so I decided to re-read what he wrote and break it down.

Still working on breaking it down btw because because these are all clues to how the game is played and therefore are giving us significant keys. Back then people's minds were not awakened to see what he was doing even in laying out the 'rules' and having everyone agree without a soul challenging his game and drawing him into theirs.

That is the reason why I don't believe we will see a repeat now of that because today more people are comprehending more as though veils are melting away allowing people to see what they were blinded from before. We are understanding the illusion more so and the hidden hand they are playing is solely contingent on us giving them over our power and authority.

I agree with you that information like this and the keys therein are far more important than what people recognize and perhaps even still many 'miss' the keys given here that act to aid us in unlocking our own prisons.

So I shall be continuing bit by bit the message and I encourage others too in decoding it because its design is to help us break through our own chains so to speak and also to see how the agenda is operating on all levels.

For example the reason why the world is decked in spectacles, constant array of billboards, signs, news, televisions, news feeds - we are literally surrounded by a constant stream of subliminal messages that are shaping our minds to believe the version of 'reality' they want us to purchase with our minds. That is the purpose of why they do this. Eventually everyone helps to co-create the version of reality that they pump into our heads giving over more power to them and their next move.

They have created a slave culture that is doing the work for them not only without questioning because they have long forgotten their own power and authority but we are doing the work for them under the illusion of freedom.

The brand of freedom that keeps us truly enslaved in ways that one cannot even imagine. Their goal is to alter the positive polarity in us to negative so they have created a fake money and work system, made us have to purchase life to live and now take porn and flood the world with it for free on top of this all. Porn is literally rewiring people's brains and causing damage that is alarming the scientists who have only just began to understand its effects.

Now flood the world with things to become addicted, drugs, alcohol, pharmaceuticals, anti-depressents, television, all manner of addictions including gaming, i-phones, texting etc..........fake wars, fake terrorist attacks, fake set ups of catastrophes designed for us to give more of our freedoms away by agreement of fake protection, own the banking system and manipulate the trading can see how the list is endless.

Give us what ever 'truth' they want us to believe including history and the real nature of the elements. Manipulate situations with HAARP and all the other black ops technologies, nano, chem trails, vaccines, pandemics, viruses, false flags everywhere, gmo foods, slow kill poisoning us and seriously there is no end to it all. They have check mated us from every direction and we essentially through omission and acceptance have agreed to their terms on it all.

We start seeing very clearly how they are deconstructing our moral compass and turning our positive polarity to their negative agenda we can begin to break down society into their schema and strategies for control and the break down of us in the way they need us to be broken down.

There is a reason why the term cattle is in reference to us. Cattle are very easy to control and with what you want, I suppose just like us.

It doesn't have to be this way...............we weren't born for this and it should be the opposite. Unfortunately I feel that unless a real world wide catastrophe occurs not enough people will wake up to Who and What they really are, enough to take back our own paradigm of reality and blow their programmed matrix into smithereens and them with it.
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 04:06 PM
a reply to: Riffrafter

Thanks Riffrafter, I am always interested in what others have to share even if it is entirely different from my perceptions as sometimes we experience errors even in the things we think we know which is all part of the learning process of our attempts at connecting the dots.

I do believe that these synchronicity you speak of are happening more and more and for those that are attuned I do believe that we will be pricked more now because of the escalation in momentum and their agenda.

I feel we are going to be sped up ourselves in our own personal awakening and understanding as we work towards breaking through all these layers of illusions.

Would like to hear the things you see differently as I'm sure that only help us all to uncover more in this all.
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 06:39 PM
Hidden Hand, IMHO is the greatest thread ever on ATS. I was absolutely captivated by it. Demonic forces are playing pallor tricks on us, we who are Brahman... laughable... its time to awaken and realize who you really are.

posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 09:01 AM
I think that thread was one of the most interesting things I've ever read. Going back through some of it now it still resonates as strongly with me as it did before. Also, I'm comprehending more than I did the first time I saw it.
But, forgive me, I must be going through a spell of pessimism, can we really turn it around now? Sure, I've seen proof that even one human has the power to affect the world around it with words and intentions alone. And then you have posters like Astro who are claiming that our collective powers are harnessed even in our sleep.

It just seems like it's gone too far though. Nobody has yet to come up with a practical solution. The best we can manage so far is to make our own lives livable. Jesse Ventura said the Internet is our most promising, connective tool, but the farthest we've ever gotten is discussions such as these. We can transform our inner world until the cows come home, but eventually we'd need to physically come together. Too risky though. That would involve dropping our former lives and most of us have mouths the feed and people counting on us to stay in the system.

Then, there is the game aspect. How do we know this isn't what we are meant these bodies on this planet at least? Supposedly this is exactly the game we signed up for. What if we ARE just supposed to play it through? We'll get where we're going eventually, right? Jeez, I'm half inclined to think that three-way split HH mentioned has already happened and we were all the lukewarms.

*sigh* Again, apologies for such a negative rant.
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posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 09:08 AM
yeah...It was an interesting read...the Hidden hand bit...but he gave some dated predictions in that thread...something along the lines of 2012...which in the end turned out the be bogus like so many of such nature.


posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 01:09 AM
So was Hidden Hand a representative of these powers or something different? Can we begin to see the difference in 'powers' here according to who is giving what message?

Here is a message given to Wes Penre from the Annunaki Utu Shamash, son of King Nannar of Nibiru.

If so the message is unique because it tells us to not get involved. Is this ultimately also what Hidden Hand is suggesting?

The Ša.A.Mi. (better known as the Anunnaki) are returning! They say they want no harm to be done to us “lulus” (humans); they say they owe us and want our forgiveness for what happened in the past (to understand this you really need to read my Papers at, or Zacharia Sitchin’s books). The way to do this is to come down to Earth and fight the Anunnaki who are stationed on Earth since millennia (those who followed Marduk in his rebellion against the Ša.A.Me. Kingdom).

Marduk and his cohorts have ever since been pulling the strings of most of the Global Elite, and the Ša.A.Mi. are returning to Earth to take care of business, overthrowing both the disloyal Anunnaki and the human Global Elite, by some called The Illuminati ( We don’t want history to repeat itself! I do NOT want humans to take sides in this upcoming battle of the ‘gods’ and once again be used as cannon-fodder and foot soldiers in their war. They say they come as liberators, but they do not come in peace. So humans, whatever you do if you want to change history and follow a more enlightened path: stay out of this conflict! DO NOT TAKE SIDES and DO NOT FIGHT IN THEIR WAR! This is their conflict.

We can’t stop them from coming, but we can step aside and let them do their thing without interfering. We are tired of fighting wars, and don’t let corrupt government leaders manipulate you into thinking we need to go to war against this “Invader Force”. The governments (the Global Elite) are only using us because they think we’re fearful and stupid. Show that we lulus have grown up and are a species of peace. Let everybody outside this planet learn that we are a peaceful race. Let Ša.A.Mi. take care of their own and the Global Elite, and we’ll go from there.

We already know that he like the rest of the world is a part of the puppet system and even in that he is given the wrong information to grossly misinform us as we have seen with his dates and the market predictions.

While he may know certain things and have given us certain clues he is used and clearly gives himself away through his errors.

Still I will gather the significant clues because they are important pieces of the puzzle.

posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 01:18 AM

originally posted by: Nechash
a reply to: Egyptia

I think the illuminati wants all the enlightened ones sacrificing themselves or rushing headlong off into oblivion so they can stay here and maintain the keys to the kingdom. If rushing full speed off of this world is such a great idea, why are they still here?

Yes I do believe that is the plan and I agree with what you have stated, it was very well put. Apparently they are trapped here........I question whether the harvesting of souls warrants some power that they can harness so as to escape?

Either way its a trap isn't it and the best food are indeed the most enlightened, devoted and self-sacrificing.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 04:41 AM
a reply to: Egyptia

In terms of the reality of all these happenings, these happen outside of the "all seeing eye prison" that I call it, the one that we have been stamped with. I'm positive that there are plenty of extra-terrestrials and spaceships however they are in the "real world" and not in the artificially-stabilised "dimension" that we are coded to, so, the Annunaki might already be here and even "Nibiru" however, they are not for our eyes to see, and it is business as usual for us in our doctored reality.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 07:08 AM
a reply to: Egyptia

how are you not fazed at all by the failed predictions of the hidden hand...the harvest time and the rest of the sh** ?

Doesn't that mean anything to you ?

As I said...I really enjoyed that thread...but looking back on it has only entertainment value. No "facts", or predictions from that thread that could possibly be verified, ever came to fruition...

Doesn't that at least put a dent in the story for you ?

posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 03:56 PM
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Yes it absolutely puts a dent in all of it but that is precisely why out of all these years even so one can gather some clues and in my mind I'm thinking that it was even a part of the design to present a greater clarity in some ways while totaling derailing people further in misalignment. What I'm interested in here are some of the 'keys' he gave, the rest I can ditch.

I've yet to come across anything that doesn't have something within it that taints it. Now the next thread will be to expose the real keys via material from one whom I believe DOES have a great deal of 'true' perception. In essence people will be able to see a clear comparison and even in that much more will be revealed.

There is a method in this all.

posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 07:21 PM
The Hidden Hand writings were deliberately adhering to the occult Law of Confusion, for those wondering why it chose to include dated predictions that it knew were false. Indeed, he too was under a harsh programming from infancy. This is the elitist method of operation to ensure compliance with the negative path held to, under initiated secrecy, deceit and mystery.
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posted on Oct, 28 2014 @ 07:55 PM
even if it was nothing but failed prediction/propaganda/hoax like most of them have been he did develop a following and people are still analyzing his cryptic words today

posted on Oct, 29 2014 @ 02:20 AM
a reply to: Egyptia

I think you may be reading too much into this. I realize the thread is somewhat enticing...but the the frauds know what is enticing to an audience...that's how they stay in the game. You seem to think there are some "keys" a bigger truth in there. To be would make me very satisfied it it were so...

After a while...I have come to realize the thread is but a mere compilation of many of the New Age stuff that is dispersed widely through the internet...not that I mind new age stuff...but like everything in this world...someone will come along and try to use it for it's own purposes.

The only thing that rang with me is the character of the writer. He seemed highly intelligent, and a good speaker. I think there were some pretty decent messages in that thread, but I don't think it get any deeper than that.


posted on Oct, 29 2014 @ 08:37 PM
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

"I think you may be reading too much into this."

Well said. If you look for anything too long, you'll fnd something that appears to fit. The author of this post admits to choosing the parts she likes, and discarding the rest. If our society followed that lead, we'd still be in the dark ages. As interesting as this post appears, it's a dark fantasy that has no basis in objective fact, or reality.

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