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“Whatever We Decide Is A Disaster For Us” France Admits Putin Is Winning, Europe “Blinked”

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posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 09:59 PM
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“Whatever We Decide Is A Disaster For Us” France Admits Putin Is Winning, Europe “Blinked”



Despite the few on ATS who try to “Hype” up Russia’s decline & so-called isolation, don’t believe it!





“While the analogy of Vladimir Putin playing geopolitical chess (while the rest of the world plays checkers) has been a popular one, the French ambassador Gerard Araud has a different - somewhat stunningly honest  - persepctive: Putin "is more a poker player really, putting all the money on the table; saying, 'Do the same' and of course we blink. We don't do the same." As Bloomberg reports, Araud goes on to express entirely un-Juncker-like, how Putin has outmaneuvered his opponents and humiliated Ukraine. Simply put, he adds, the Russian president "has won because we were not ready to die for Ukraine, while apparently he was," leaving the ominous question, "when is Putin going to stop? Whatever we decide is a disaster for us."


The whole entire article is quotable.



* - Should have let sleeping bears lie. . .

‘Poker Player’ Putin Bluffed and Won, French Envoy Says

Source
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posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: SurrenderingAmerica

There'll be some nervous passagers in their 'Dasoo' Falcon's for the foreseeable future.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:00 AM
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EU countries have gotten thrown under the bus.


And now Cameron trying to skip out on paying its dues to EU. Israel mulling the drop of Usaia. Saudi & U.S. actively engaged in slitting each others throats behind scenes. . .


I'm sorry but the U.S. govt is marching its citizens & rest of world to collapse.





posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:22 AM
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“The question is there on the table: When is Putin going to stop?” Araud said.

Indeed.

What will it take for the west to take the military action which Putin has no qualms about taking?
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:30 AM
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originally posted by: Phage

“The question is there on the table: When is Putin going to stop?” Araud said.

Indeed.

What will it take for the west to take the military action which Putin has no qualms about taking?




problem is if the west do take military action say good buy to our nice comfortable way of living...war with russia would most likely take most of the world back to the middle ages...



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Who said anything about a war with Russia?
It was a Ukraine revolution, not a Russian invasion. Remember?



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:38 AM
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a reply to: Phage

revolution huh...that is just a twist of words ?....Russia is being pushed and just pushed back with the Ukraine....unless i am completely off base ?



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:38 AM
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: SurrenderingAmerica


Putin is still trying to get the headlines...........No one cares anymore. Seriously no one cares. Putin should have a grand birthday party or start a reality TV show.
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 12:56 AM
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a reply to: SubTruth

no, you pretend you don't care. There are a hell of a lot of people interested in everything he says.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 01:19 AM
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Europe is hurting simply because it still follows orders from Washington.
The sanctions don't hurt America, but hurt European trade a huge amount. The simple solution, therefore, is for the European leaders to tell Washington to go jump in a lake!

Of course, that would need leaders with a spine, not the banker selected yes men we currently get to choose from each election cycle.

We don't to take any military action against Russia, with whom we were trading and getting along with fine until the US planned and executed Ukraine farce happened. Then all of a sudden the media is hyping the anti-Russia stuff at every opportunity. Yep, the same corporate media that lied us into all the other wars is at it again, and people still use what they say as "proof" of Russian aggression and expansionist plans to invade the whole continent!



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 01:23 AM
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originally posted by: Phage

“The question is there on the table: When is Putin going to stop?” Araud said.

Indeed.

What will it take for the west to take the military action which Putin has no qualms about taking?

A new president to start with.
Obama's scared of ISIS
He's pretending Russia doesn't even exist.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:32 AM
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a reply to: Malynn


He is an important man leading a regional power......That being said he cares more for himself than the people he leads. I think he could be great leader if he could fix that.


I am willing to bet he has a hand painted picture of himself wrestling a bear hanging above his bed.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:41 AM
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a reply to: SubTruth


I am willing to bet he has a hand painted picture of himself wrestling a bear hanging above his bed.


Even worse:

www.theguardian.com...



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:48 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: SubTruth


I am willing to bet he has a hand painted picture of himself wrestling a bear hanging above his bed.


Even worse:

www.theguardian.com...




too funny....but the again is that really any worse than say this ..

ok so he wasnt president at the time but still ...pretty poor...on the up side he wasnt posing as Hercules smoking
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:51 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: SubTruth


I am willing to bet he has a hand painted picture of himself wrestling a bear hanging above his bed.


Even worse:

www.theguardian.com...






Ok that was funny thank you poster. I have to hand it to him he does make other leaders look kinda whimpy. I wonder if he has ever wrestled a bear......



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 03:54 AM
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a reply to: SurrenderingAmerica

As usual, you have had to twist, alter and censor your source to make it say what you wished it said. Ambassador Araud does not "admit" anything. Your putting words into his mouth is little better than a lie. The specific issue he was touching on was the sale of French military equipment to Russia:


Asked about the delivery of two French Mistral-class helicopter-carrying assault ships sold to Moscow, a 1.2 billion euro ($1.6 billion) deal signed in 2011, Araud conceded there are no good options for his government. The first ship was to be delivered this month, but the French government put the deal on hold Sept. 3 over Russia’s armed incursions in Ukraine.

“Whatever we decide is a disaster for us,” Araud said, again expressing his personal view. On one side, he said, lies France’s credibility as an arms supplier who delivers on contracts, and on the other, the difficulty of delivering a weapons system to Putin, who might use it against Ukraine or a European ally.


Your own source. [Emphasis mine --DJW001]

What's more, you need to learn to understand political rhetoric. Araud is essentially chiding his own government and its NATO partners for not taking a stronger stand against Putin's aggression. Make no mistake, he accuses Russia of arming and supporting the rebels contrary to Putin's claims otherwise. Araud is not surrendering, he is inciting action.
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 04:01 AM
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Come on these pro-Russia posters never ever twist or spin the facts......cough......cough. I think I hit the nail on the head when said Putin should do reality TV. He could wrestle bears and round up gay people for arrest. It would be good TV and boost his ratings in Russia.
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 07:37 AM
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originally posted by: Britguy
Europe is hurting simply because it still follows orders from Washington.
The sanctions don't hurt America, but hurt European trade a huge amount. The simple solution, therefore, is for the European leaders to tell Washington to go jump in a lake!

Of course, that would need leaders with a spine, not the banker selected yes men we currently get to choose from each election cycle.

We don't to take any military action against Russia, with whom we were trading and getting along with fine until the US planned and executed Ukraine farce happened. Then all of a sudden the media is hyping the anti-Russia stuff at every opportunity. Yep, the same corporate media that lied us into all the other wars is at it again, and people still use what they say as "proof" of Russian aggression and expansionist plans to invade the whole continent!


Europe's problem is that they are based on debt, and the whole economy is based on paying Danegeld to Wall Street in the form of loans and interest payments. They have to keep borrowing and rapidly increasing their populations in order to keep getting money to keep the social security systems going.

They also need to maintain exports to keep their economies going, but since the Americans tell them to impose sanctions they have to do that, reducing exports in order to keep getting money to borrow.

On top of that, there is the Europe wealth redistribution system in the form of fees which are upgraded according to how each country is doing. But that always seems to be fudged each year to make Britain pay the most.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 07:38 AM
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All of which is completely off topic.



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