a reply to: Gryphon66
Looks like we have fundamental differences of opinion. That's what ATS is about.
We can tit for tat until the cows come home and you won't change your mind and neither will I
But I do see society coming apart at the seams, ready to collapse
I for one dread the day totalitarianism which is around the corner hits full force.
The deep seated distrust of each other, which can be seen in our little disagreement of the way the world works
has lead to such a divided country that the next step is totalitarianism.
You do realize that we have a super fan of Alinsky in the white house who is following the Alinsky model of total destruction of a society in order
to remake it.
Unfortunately, history tells us that after the total destruction of society, utopia never results, normally a repressive and quite ugly totalitarian
(be it King, Dictator, President for Life, One Party rule etc.) government nearly always results after a long and bitter and quite ugly state of
Anyway, that is what I see happening.
I lived through desegregation and things got better and better, and now racial tensions are actually higher than during desegregation or the Rodney
Regardless of who you think started it, I see a surveillance society unlike the world has ever seen, on average a person is under some sort of
surveillance every 150 feet when out in public. All citizens phone calls and emails are all stored by the government and routinely scanned. Computer
cameras are routinely remotely activated for surveillance and soon all TV's will have cameras (for games, skype etc) and the government is sure to
tap into those as they do with computers and phones.
This is the biggest indication we are headed toward a completely repressive and heavy handed totalitarian government.
People are now sentenced for thought crimes, although we call them hate crimes. The sentencing is based on what the judge decides the person was
thinking at the time of the crime, there is no evidence required or even wanted by the judge, just a guess as to what someone was thinking. It is
routinely abused, like when a gang of blacks beat up a white person and call them racial slurs, the judge normally decides it is not a hate crime.
But when the reverse happens, it is always called a hate crime. This does happen, you know it does.
People are destroyed for exercising their faith. It is quite routine to read about some person of faith having their business destroyed because they
would not do something that was against their religious values. Regardless of if you think it is ok or not to destroy someones livelihood for it, it
happens and that in and of itself is a step toward totalitarianism and forcing atheism in order to run a business.
Pastors are now being required to turn over sermons, emails, transcripts of talks as evidence in a case they were not involved in, as supporting
evidence. Yes, I know the sermons were dropped after they realized that was illegal, however they are still demanding pastoral emails and pastoral
talks. The government totally thinking that ignoring the constitution was ok because they have twisted what was written in the public meme.
The amendment is freedom OF religion, nowhere does it say From, but OF, the government is not to interfere in sermons, talks or pastoral emails
according to the constitution. Which means nothing these days and is derided as antiquated and needs to be abolished by many prominent people in the
government. Another step toward totalitarianism, writing the laws to say what the government can do to people rather than what it can not to do
Speech has become regulated by those in power through the complete and totally personal destruction of those who do speak in a politically incorrect
manner, or have spoken at any time in their life in a politically incorrect manner and it was recorded. The glee that is seen in those doing the
destruction over unpopular speech is quite frightening and even more so that it is openly supported and encouraged by the government.
So much so, that once the totalitarian state takes over, Beezer is right, I'm a gonner, but I'm old so I decided to speak out because the young can
not for fear of their jobs, children and lives.
That is what society is becoming under politically correct speech, a euphemism for controlled and regulated speech.
This is the saddest of all because when I was in college I dated a LA Raza guy who worked with the Black Panthers, bet that surprises the heck out of
you. But these liberals fought tooth and nail for freedom of speech, the right to speak out against the government, the right to say whatever they
wanted about society.
It used to be that freedom of speech was a cornerstone of the liberal agenda, that is sadly no longer true at all.
I have been around a long time and am quite frightened by the destruction of society, with no constructive effort toward an ultimate rebuilding of
society, just what I see as a purposeful tearing apart of society. With as we have seen above some sort of idea that utopia will result.
Well it won't without a positive and constructive effort to positive change rather than destructive change. I see no move to positive change at all
right now, only destructive change leading to one of two things, if history repeats itself, which it always does, totalitarianism or fascism or a
combination of the two with the leaders deluding themselves that they are creating utopia.