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Utah Man Shot and Killed by SWAT Team After Calling Suicide Hotline

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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 09:57 PM
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At around 4 a.m. Tuesday morning, a 35-year-old man in Roy, Utah called a suicide hotline looking for help. A SWAT team responded to the man's home, and after a seven-hour standoff in his garage, an officer shot and killed him.

It's unclear what sparked the shooting. Detective Matt Gwynn of the Roy Police Department told the Standard-Examiner that he was unsure whether the victim fired a shot, or how many shots were fired. "At some point those negotiations failed and unfortunately the SWAT team was involved in a shooting, and the subject is now deceased," he said.

The Roy Police Department SWAT team was assisted by the Ogden Metro SWAT team in the negotiations. Gwynn told the Standard-Examiner that one of the officers involved with the shooting was Roy PD, but he was unsure of the jurisdictions of the others. All of the officers who fired their weapons have reportedly been placed on administrative leave.

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We had a issue with a mentally disturbed family member, under normal circumstances the police would have been called, I would not allow that for obvious reasons. Considering mental health issues are so prevalent in the states we need police departments to develop and train special units to deal with these issues and not just kill them for acting crazy!!

We were able to resolve our issue without the cops showing up and killing anyone, we are untrained!




posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

How horrible is it that someone calling the suicide assistance line ends up being shot and killed by a police officer? Bet that's going to stop a lot of people from calling suicide assistance..

There needs to be protocols in place for dealing with psychological issues, better ones than we have now because shoot first ask questions later is not working very well.

Sad story all around...
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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

Suicide by cop.

Apparently he was living with his girlfriend and her children, at least he didn't try to take them with him, like some have.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: Jennyfrenzy

Shoot first ask questions later?

Did you read the article? There was a nearly 7 hour standoff.


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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:20 PM
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Let me get this straight: this person called a suicide hotline, and their reaction was to send a SWAT team.

That seems like the exact opposite of anything that you should ever do. Like ever.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:21 PM
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Yeah, who has time to talk a man off the proverbial ledge. We're missing walking dead while out on this swat call...

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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: LDragonFire

Suicide by cop.

Apparently he was living with his girlfriend and her children, at least he didn't try to take them with him, like some have.


How is it suicide by cop when he called a hotline asking for help?



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: AnIntellectualRedneck
Let me get this straight: this person called a suicide hotline, and their reaction was to send a SWAT team.

That seems like the exact opposite of anything that you should ever do. Like ever.


Strange.

I wonder if the guy said he had a gun and maybe said he was going to kill the family?



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: LDragonFire

Suicide by cop.

Apparently he was living with his girlfriend and her children, at least he didn't try to take them with him, like some have.


How is it suicide by cop when he called a hotline asking for help?


How do we know for sure the story is accurate as reported?




posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: DuckforcoveR

Well although it hasn't been specifically said yet, a neighbour describe hearing a single shot, a pause, then 4 or 5 shots...to me this suggests he shot first.


"It seem like there was one shot, and then a pause, and then four or five shots after that, that were very rapid," Smith said. "The pause after the first shot was really brief. After that I went inside and shut the door."



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

We can't be have'n people shoot themselves when a
perfectly good cop can shoot them. Might look the
police aren't doing there job.

He prolly shot but only wounded himself so the officer helped
him out. Who knows what really went on?


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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:44 PM
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"At some point those negotiations failed and unfortunately the SWAT team was involved in a shooting, and the subject is now deceased," he said.


I love how they play with words to avoid saying they shot him.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:44 PM
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This is getting alot of press in Utah


Shots rang out. Again. Killer cops from Utah. This time in Roy. A small, tight knit community witnessed the Weber Metro SWAT team respond to a desperate call. A suicidal man, reaching out for help via a suicide prevention hotline, was shot to death this week in what the was being coined by the police as a “suicide by cop”.

Jose Calzada, 35 of Roy, died at 11:15 a.m. of numerous gunshot wounds after 6 hours of “attempted negotiations.” It is apparent that at no time did any officer or SWAT negotiator involve any mental health professional as they apparently “followed protocol”.

Is “following protocol” now the “norm” in Utah? Dozens of people, innocent young men and women such as Danielle Willard, Darrien Hunt and Matthew Stewart have been gunned down by law enforcement agencies throughout Utah and protests are showing growing community support for these victims, their families and loved ones.

Ladybud

And this report:

Jose Calzada called a suicide hotline from his home in Roy, Utah, at about 4:00 a.m. on Tuesday morning, but by 11 a.m. he was shot dead by a SWAT team.

After Calzada called the suicide hotline, the SWAT team arrived and negotiated with him for hours (video below).

“At some point those negotiations failed and unfortunately the SWAT team was involved in a shooting, and the subject is now deceased,” Officer Matt Gwynn, public information officer for the Roy Police Department, told Standard.net.

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So the cops let him stand there armed for 6 or 7 hours before killing him?

"Following protocol"



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:48 PM
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For all we know, he wanted suicide assistance or assisted suicide he was looking for the latter he got what he called for. But yes there should be units trained in this area and not send in the SWAT team in.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:53 PM
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Yep following protocol has jack squat to do with any kind of serving or protecting the public, protocol=ass covering.
Never call the police on mental health issues..I should add im not sure if this guy even called the police, it was a suicide hotline..who are you supposed to call?
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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:57 PM
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a reply to: Digital_Reality

So sad that people are now called subjects . Kind of a dehumanising statement . I guess you cant say ,we killed a person .



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 10:58 PM
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So the new mission of Suicide Hotlines is to home deliver your very own, state funded suicide? Really, why bother? Why make suicide and self harm illegal if cops can injure or kill you to...uhhh...keep you from injuring and killing yourself. Makes perfect sense.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 11:16 PM
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How do we know he didn't call the police after calling the hotline? Suicide by cop is not unheard of after all.

Clarification* It wouldn't be hard to tell the 911 operator something crazy enough to warrant a SWAT response.
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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: IntroduceALittleIrony
During a 7hr standoff why were no mental health professionals called?..thats the problem.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

I may be wrong, but I thought negotiators had training in this area to help talk down mentally ill suspects.


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