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Hillary Clinton: "Don't Let Anybody Tell You Corporations Create Jobs"

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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 11:31 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Ehh you cant really say that without knowing how they might work on a non-petro dollar economy though, can you?




posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 11:42 PM
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Corporations don't create jobs. The government doesn't create jobs. Brilliant and driven individuals create jobs. They are the ones who found corporations and fill government coffers.

The best any government or corporation can do is try to fund these people once they have been realized or show potential but if you look at the resume of the people who have founded some of the largest companies in America you realize how hard they are to identify before everyone is jumping at the chance to fund them.

America in its history has proven that if you give people hope and freedom they will find the desire to for fill their potential. Money is the easy part, it's new ideas or simply good ideas and the drive to make it happen that are hard to come by.
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posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 11:49 PM
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Corporations do create jobs.

Without corporations, that was created by the founder of the corporation, I wouldn't have a job. My job was created by someone who decided to create a corporation. It should be logic and common sense to understand this. But, lets see how the occupy crazies can spin it.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

Corporations and governments provide the majority of jobs in the world, no question but without people with fresh ideas to challenge and do better than the already established institutions from within them or as competition you get stagnation.

The biggest problem with corporations and governments is when they try to stop the competition from manifesting to retain the power they have. As long as they aren't doing that corporations and government aren't a problem and are a positive.
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posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 12:08 AM
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originally posted by: john452
a reply to: smithjustinb

By your logic the government also creates jobs


THEY DO! Schools. Law Enforcement. Et Cetera.


Corporations and governments provide the majority of jobs in the world but without people with fresh ideas to challenge and do better than the already established institutions from within them or as competition you get stagnation.


Often times, the creative minds you are speaking of take their ideas and the product they've dreamed up and go on to start a corporation............ and create jobs.


The biggest problem with corporations and governments is when they try to stop the competition from manifesting to retain the power they have. As long as they aren't doing that corporations and government aren't a problem and are a positive.


It doesn't matter what the problem is. This thread is questioning whether or not corporations create jobs and the unavoidable fact is they do.
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posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

Often times, the creative minds you are speaking of take their ideas and the product they've dreamed up and go on to start a corporation............ and create jobs.


Yes and as someone who has done just that I can't stand it when people try to diminish our role by saying it's corporations and government who create jobs. I know, I know, I didn't build that...



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 01:40 AM
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THEY DO! Schools. Law Enforcement. Et Cetera.

you know what many people say that the U.S. government is a corporation.

and the latest figures show that the U.S. govt is the largest employer in the U.S.

in 2012 the U.S. government had 2,792,736 employees, 2,568,433 of these are full time.
that is just civilian jobs, in Dec 2013 there were 1,369,532 million active duty service members,and 850,880 reserve members.

just real quick without pencil and paper, that's about 2% of the population employeed by the U.S. govt. now the number that i can find for total working in the U.S. was for Sept and that was 139.752 million. again with out pencil and paper that comes to about 5% of the work force works for the govt.



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 01:45 AM
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a reply to: hounddoghowlie

You could include everyone working in the defense industry as well and any industry that receive subsidies and or government contracts.



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

good point, trickle down.




posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 01:49 AM
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originally posted by: john452

originally posted by: smithjustinb

Often times, the creative minds you are speaking of take their ideas and the product they've dreamed up and go on to start a corporation............ and create jobs.


Yes and as someone who has done just that I can't stand it when people try to diminish our role by saying it's corporations and government who create jobs. I know, I know, I didn't build that...


I'm not trying to diminish the worker's role. Workers are vital to a corporation's success. But, they're all replaceable and one worker's competency doesn't make or brake a fortune 500 corporation. But, a C.E.O.'s competency could. With great power comes great responsibility and great reward. That's just the natural order of things and is what keeps the machine ticking.
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posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 01:57 AM
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a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Then so is welfare and food stamps.



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

Here you go for Job Security,,,,, Cleaning The Roach's Out Of City Hall in Chicago City Council Chambers,,,,



A top Emanuel administration official was embarrassed Thursday when a rather large bug showed up while he was testifying at a Budget Committee hearing.



WBBM Newsradio Political Editor Craig Dellimore reports Chicago Fleet and Facility Management Commissioner David Reynolds was talking to aldermen about aging equipment, when a very large roach was spotted crawling on the west wall of the City Council Chambers.
Reynolds said the timing was ironic, given pest control is part of his department’s job.


So,,, what ya think? They going to get new equipment? Maybe even an employee too,,,,,

Buggy Employement
Yes, jobs, created by,,,,, Cock Roach's



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

I'm most certainly not talking about workers. Any worker of significant talent will probably start his own business and become a rival unless they are the employee of the government or a large corporation who has cornered the market but even then a very talented individual will find a way to compete.



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 02:35 AM
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Corporations and businesses don't create jobs? So what's left? The government.

Who relies on the corporations and businesses to donate to their campaign?

You, mrs Clinton.

You fail. And may god have mercy on your soul.



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 03:07 AM
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Obviously having businesses creates jobs, I don't think we are arguing that.
Corporations are big business.
I understand what Hillary is saying, her argument against trickle down, but I think she is just pandering.

But the consumers are what make the corporations successful, consumers are the ones who
drive demand. If you are strangling the bottom 99% then you can't create jobs.

For instance, GE's effective tax rate is -9 Percent
While for me, I pay taxes on income, and purchases, which puts me/the average person closer to 40%.

Top 10 tax avoiders - GE #1



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

'Tax breaks for the rich'.

The biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the unsuspecting masses.

Tax is theft. Simple. Apparently, a necessary theft.

The argument is who get ripped off and how much to rip them off and how often.

As no one is arguing for zero taxes for everybody, then to that degree we all endorse rip-offs. That makes us no better than the "ripper-offer".

Rip the other guy off, that's only fair..guffaw.

What a hoot..



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: badgerprints

Hillary clinton?

A socialist!!?

I wish.

no she's s a darn neoliberal.. de-regulating the financial industry, allowing the rich to skimp on taxes, etc.



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
well considering that she was on the board of walmart, one of the biggest employers in the U.S. which at last count employed 1.4 million people in the U.S.,and 2.1 world wide. with more trying everyday to get a job with them. i wonder how she can say that.

she severed on the board and only had a salary of $18,000, and got a $1500 for every quaterly meeting she attended.
but i doubt that she was there for the money they paid her, i kinda think it was for the contacts.

she claims she wasn't involved in trying to keep unions out, other board members say she was right there with them.
there are video tapes of the board meetings where she sat completely silent when they discussed unions, you would at least think that if she cared about people and their jobs she would have said something one way or the other.


Who created Walmart? Where did the first store open? When did they become a retail chain in multiple towns and cities?

corporate.walmart.com...

1962
On July 2, 1962, Sam Walton opened the first Walmart store in Rogers, Ark.

1967
The Walton family owned 24 stores, ringing up $12.7 million in sales.

It just took him five years. His competitors thought his idea would never work.



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: stormcell

lol, I don't think wal-mart really likes to talk too much about it's relationship with organized labor groups.... kinda a sore spot...



posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
a reply to: badgerprints

Hillary clinton?

A socialist!!?

I wish.

no she's s a darn neoliberal.. de-regulating the financial industry, allowing the rich to skimp on taxes, etc.


Means to an end sir.
Study her background.
She's a believer.
Socialist to the core...not for herself ,mind you, but for the faceless masses.



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