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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Stop giving them ideas, I know Halloweens suppose to be scary, but not that scary.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe
OP, why are you trying to purposely scare yourself with paranoia?
originally posted by: MojaveBurning
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Stop giving them ideas, I know Halloweens suppose to be scary, but not that scary.
I totally agree with this reply.
You just ruined my morning, I was sitting here happily discussing with my child what costume I am going to pick up for her today.... and then this scariness. I almost want to call you a fewer mongerer on this one. Ugh.
If something is meant to happen because of ISIS, it will. But until that time comes, I'm not going to let my life be ruled by fear. You shouldn't either.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Stop giving them ideas, I know Halloweens suppose to be scary, but not that scary.
In the last five years, the odds of an American being killed in a terrorist attack have been about 1 in 20 million (that's including both domestic attacks and overseas attacks). As the chart above from the Economist shows, that's considerably smaller than the risk of dying from many other things, from post-surgery complications to ordinary gun violence to lightning.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe
The only reason you think the nutters come out during Halloween is because of news articles like this:
Snacks Laced With Marijuana Raise Concerns
I'm sure you are familiar with the "razor blades in apples" bit or other such nonsense that news organizations are always going on about this time of year. Except ALL of that is based on unfounded information. Even a cursory fact check on these types of articles shows that they are full of crap. You need no more watch over your children this year on Halloween than any other year.
Eight facts about terrorism in the United States
In the last five years, the odds of an American being killed in a terrorist attack have been about 1 in 20 million (that's including both domestic attacks and overseas attacks). As the chart above from the Economist shows, that's considerably smaller than the risk of dying from many other things, from post-surgery complications to ordinary gun violence to lightning.
Your example in Canada and the guy with a hatchet aren't going to increase those odds that much. Stop working yourself up into a tizzy about nothing.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Ummm.....no.....those articles actually have nothing to do with why I think this. By nutters I don't mean killers. Halloween in general brings out craziness in people because they are dressed up, drinking more and typically attending large gatherings or parties.
I really don't care about the 8 facts about terrorism, because terrorism doesn't care about statistics. I am simply saying this is a prime opportunity for a group to do some real damage without being caught. Everyone around will have costumes on, many with fake blood and whatnot. If something happens, the ability to assess a situation for LEO's would be almost impossible due to the number of people, the fact people are costumed and may not be recognizable, the fact that many will likely have Terrorist inspired costumes (though they likely are not terrorists).....all lends to a really bad situation that could occur.
Again....I am not the paranoid type and am not really worried about pot laced brownies or whatever....I typically don't let my kids eat homemade anything from halloween and I always check the candy they get anyways.
RATA TAT TAT TAT....
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Ummm.....no.....those articles actually have nothing to do with why I think this. By nutters I don't mean killers. Halloween in general brings out craziness in people because they are dressed up, drinking more and typically attending large gatherings or parties.
By that same token we should just be scared and fear for our lives on ANY major holiday. If Halloween is so scary for you, New Years Eve must be a NIGHTMARE.
I really don't care about the 8 facts about terrorism, because terrorism doesn't care about statistics. I am simply saying this is a prime opportunity for a group to do some real damage without being caught. Everyone around will have costumes on, many with fake blood and whatnot. If something happens, the ability to assess a situation for LEO's would be almost impossible due to the number of people, the fact people are costumed and may not be recognizable, the fact that many will likely have Terrorist inspired costumes (though they likely are not terrorists).....all lends to a really bad situation that could occur.
Yea I guess you are right, stats and reality can take a back seat to fears and paranoia. If it can happen, you should fear it with all your might right?
Again....I am not the paranoid type and am not really worried about pot laced brownies or whatever....I typically don't let my kids eat homemade anything from halloween and I always check the candy they get anyways.
The point was that I was comparing your unfounded fears about a terrorist attack on Halloween with the unfounded fears that people in Colorado are putting pot candy in trick or treaters' candy bags. In other words they are the same thing.
For instance, if Halloween is such a threat to terrorism, why didn't we see terrorist plots on Halloweens prior to this year? Because of ISIS? HA! That's a joke! Before ISIS it was alqaeda and before them it was other terrorist groups. Stop fearing terrorism! You are just buying into the government propaganda. I posted the statistics about terrorism to help you allay your fears, not ignore them in favor of unfounded paranoia.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Huh? No, New Years is typically not a costumed party with people dressing up as killers or whatever zombie or terrorist or ebola worker, so fail on that one.
And as far as not having terrorist plots for Halloween prior has nothing to do with this one. There was a call to arms by ISIS to attack people at random that some have taken seriously.
Like I said.....this is not a fear of mine, it is a concern. I don't live anywhere near where something like this would occur so I am not "fearful". I am concerned that something like this could happen.
"If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman, or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him."
originally posted by: luciddream
I dont know OP, you seems to jump on the doom and gloom and your factuation with ISIS.
ISIS havnt done anything yet(in the west) but you seem to link everything with them.
Its like one of those paranoid people that sees terrorist everywhere.
Hopefully a "brown" looking person doesn't cross your path.