a reply to: gorsestar
Hey man, sorry for the late reply.
Why do you keep insisting that I am proposing aliens? I never actually once mentioned any alien aspect.
Sitchen's story mostly revolves around the addition of gold-mining as the purpose of an alien interaction with Earth, and claims this was facilitated
by the use of crashing a planet into ours with a controlled methodology - resulting in the moon as their orbital base.
There is no proof for his claims other than a mixture of archaeological finds (gold mines dating back to as far as 35,000 BC I believe) and the fact
that gold was the most abundant metal in human possession (during the period of the 7 metals of antiquity) when it shouldn't have been by all
He also uses the Mesopotamian stories of Tiamat and the 'mingling of waters' to suggest that the ancients were speaking about this catastrophic
collision of planets which resulted in our moon, the Earth's axial shift, the resultant flood and the arrival of the 'Gods'.
Who knows, maybe he is right? He did lay his life to the cause. I do not take leaps of faith like that however, I assure you that my friend.
All I said was that it may make sense for some of these stories to have originated from a 'physical interaction'. Let me elaborate on this for you.
If we analyse all the stories in their whole, and compile as many overlapping concepts as we can, taking the ones with most frequency and magnitude to
denote a stronger source, we can begin to actually paint a very approximate picture of the core concepts.
It seems to always break down to this: High Gods, Lesser Gods, Humans. Not only that, but each of these 3 facets have individual stories about
themselves as well as different stories depending on which of the other 2 facets are included.
On the contrary of taking these 3 facets to be spawned from an alien interaction of supreme command, Earth command and us - perhaps the high Gods
facet has always originated from the natural divines (nature, astronomy, events of the laws of the universe and so forth) and the lesser Gods from an
Lets remember that right now, on Earth, there are untouched tribes that are living as if it was still 10,000 BC. They have absolutely no idea of our
technology or progression and anything they observe in the skies due to us would be perceived as supernatural and described in a way that would seem
absurd to the unaware.
That is simply just a fact. We can readily observe that the conditions on Earth can allow one civilization to be vastly superior to another, despite
evolving from the same 'crop' so to say.
Is it then so hard to extrapolate that, and imagine at some point in our modern civilisation's inception (Mesopotamia ~ arguably 3,000 BC) the same
situation existed on Earth?
We know for a fact the Sumerians mentioned Dilmun as a mythical-like home of the 'Gods'. Dilmun is now suspected to have been found as ruins, in the
gulf area, dating back to approx. at least 6,000 BC. Evidence shows flooding had affected the area. Hmm... Floods, disappearances of past
civilisations, the start of the our 'modern crop'?
But no, let's go further. We know the last ice age had a brief interrupt around 14,000 BC to 10,000 BC, causing a temporary rise in water levels. We
also know that domestication and agriculture were first formed and developed shortly after this period.
Prior to this unexpected ice-age interruption, mainstream science has theorised as many as FOUR different yet independantly intelligent humanoid races
on the planet. They all disappear after the ice-age interruption, apart from us. We later tell this story in the Epic and depict Enlil handing us the
There is no doubt there's a weird coincidence between stories of other humanoids dying out due to catastrophic events, humans surviving and beginning
a new age of agriculture, and the beginnings of mankind's own 'kingship' told from 3,000 BC to 2014 AD, and actual historical events that we have
traced back to approximately 14,000 to 6,000 BC?
Then we have stories like Atlantis, pinpointed to around 10,000 BC. We know Neanderthals and Cro-magnon interacted and mixed with us. They were on
average significantly taller than us and I believe estimated on average to be around 7 foot tall. Considering ancient humans were probably around the
low 5 ft range, they would have appeared as giants to us.
We also speculate that these other humanoids were intelligent and in the case of the Neanderthals we've theorised that they were sailing the seas
successfully well before us. Sailing the seas takes a bloody significant amount of intelligence.
I'm not suggesting there was a civilization anywhere close to our level of technological advancement, but it is clear that different groups of
different humanoids have excelled at different things over different timespans on this Earth.
I was merely suggesting that perhaps a large part of these stories may also have origin in these simple facts.
I find the Sumerian stories the most interesting because they are the earliest we can meaningfully decipher, and therefore it is easy to see the
influences at least they have had on all the resulting stories afterwards, all the way up to the Bible and Quran.
The Sumerian King's List is especially interesting. Why the precession-like reigns for the first 8 Kings? Why explain time and space in 6 and 10,
which has lasted to this day?
Why was the 8th King's reign not in accordance with the preceding kings and why did a flood follow this? (SKL says 'then the flood swept over). Why
did the reigns begin to shorten after the flood eventually becoming realistic human-like reigning times for a King?
What were they talking about? What did they mean by 'kingship descended from Heaven'? Why do the dates take us back to approx. 220,000 BC - the same
time anatomically-modern humans arised?
Have we been observing the stars and recording them for that long? Is that what the SKL suggests? Surely not. Interactions with past Earth humanoids?
Makes no sense. Aliens from another planet? Where's the evidence?
So... what is it on about then? The SKL cannot be disregarded as rambling because it also contains historically verified kings and has been found
consistently throughout that period of time. It was an extremely serious document to the early Mesopotamian civilisations. I really don't know lol.
Honestly - I don't think we'll ever know the actual truth about everything that's happened on Earth in the last 1 million years let alone what our
stories originate from. We can speculate and apply Occams Razor all we want but the truth is a very different matter to an educated guess.
To take it back to the start, our archaeological history actually suggests that we were MINING GOLD at least 30,000 years prior to farming, despite
having the materials required already. Some argue that number is closer to 100,000 years.
To me, this is actually a clear indicator - not that we were visited by aliens - but that we are simply looking at only a few jigsaw pieces out of
potentially millions. That's why it's always wise to keep all the cards on the table for as long as you can.
Sorry for the essay - just throwing some thoughts out there.
edit on 2-11-2014 by DazDaKing because: (no reason given)