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Area 51 Scientist's Deathbed Show & Tell!

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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: Bilk22

What's your experience? Credentials?

you first




posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: Bilk22

What's your experience? Credentials?

you first



weren't you the one who brought up your credentials? What are they? The public demands to know!

OG



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: Bilk22

What's your experience? Credentials?

The poster I responded to stated that Boyd wasn't what he was claiming. Seems there's ample evidence posted here, including his obit, that refute that statement from that poster.

If some one wants to claim authority, then post who you are and your credentials. Pretty simple actually.


Why - you gonna offer me a job?

If not it's really none of your business. Mom always told me not to give out personal info to strangers on conspiracy forums. I will say I can at least one up you in all three categories. Does that make me a Senior Scientist in your eyes? Will you then defend my posts just as tenaciously as you attack others for questioning Bushman's claims?



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: Bilk22

What's your experience? Credentials?

you first



He already answered.

None. But he knows a guy.,.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Jenisiz

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Jenisiz
Haven't read through all the threads here but I'd love to believe it. Unfortunately I've seen the prop of the alien before. They just threw a dark model ink over it for depth and luminescence.


Already been covered. You're incorrect.



I'm incorrect in something I've seen first hand LOL. This alien was sold at Trails and purchased as a Halloween prop at a party. I've even seen it in two "Disclosure" videos


Look through the thread and you'll see that a picture of the prop you're talking about has already been posted and compared to the pictures in the video.

Please provide a pic of the prop you're talking about and, if it's different than the one already posted and actually identical to the "alien" in the photos, I'd love to see it.

Otherwise, you're beating an extremely dead horse.


I've no need to look through the thread. I've already researched this entire claim awhile ago because I recognized the prop. If you're not going to believe that then look at the pictures themselves. They're not evenly aged.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: Bilk22

What's your experience? Credentials?

The poster I responded to stated that Boyd wasn't what he was claiming. Seems there's ample evidence posted here, including his obit, that refute that statement from that poster.

If some one wants to claim authority, then post who you are and your credentials. Pretty simple actually.


Why - you gonna offer me a job?

If not it's really none of your business. Mom always told me not to give out personal info to strangers on conspiracy forums. I will say I can at least one up you in all three categories. Does that make me a Senior Scientist in your eyes? Will you then defend my posts just as tenaciously as you attack others for questioning Bushman's claims?


clearly he was not asking for your credentials he was asking another poster zetariticuloun who mentioned his credentials. .. so no you are not being offered a job because your not the one in question.

Hope that clears up your confusion. .

OG
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: Jenisiz

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Jenisiz

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Jenisiz
Haven't read through all the threads here but I'd love to believe it. Unfortunately I've seen the prop of the alien before. They just threw a dark model ink over it for depth and luminescence.


Already been covered. You're incorrect.



I'm incorrect in something I've seen first hand LOL. This alien was sold at Trails and purchased as a Halloween prop at a party. I've even seen it in two "Disclosure" videos


Look through the thread and you'll see that a picture of the prop you're talking about has already been posted and compared to the pictures in the video.

Please provide a pic of the prop you're talking about and, if it's different than the one already posted and actually identical to the "alien" in the photos, I'd love to see it.

Otherwise, you're beating an extremely dead horse.


I've no need to look through the thread. I've already researched this entire claim awhile ago because I recognized the prop. If you're not going to believe that then look at the pictures themselves. They're not evenly aged.


so you have no need to look thru the thread? No need to read the information that proves you wrong? You will just blindly make a conclusion without viewing evidence to the contrary?

That there is the height of arrogance and closed mindedness.

OG



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: Jenisiz

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Jenisiz

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Jenisiz
Haven't read through all the threads here but I'd love to believe it. Unfortunately I've seen the prop of the alien before. They just threw a dark model ink over it for depth and luminescence.


Already been covered. You're incorrect.



I'm incorrect in something I've seen first hand LOL. This alien was sold at Trails and purchased as a Halloween prop at a party. I've even seen it in two "Disclosure" videos


Look through the thread and you'll see that a picture of the prop you're talking about has already been posted and compared to the pictures in the video.

Please provide a pic of the prop you're talking about and, if it's different than the one already posted and actually identical to the "alien" in the photos, I'd love to see it.

Otherwise, you're beating an extremely dead horse.


I've no need to look through the thread. I've already researched this entire claim awhile ago because I recognized the prop. If you're not going to believe that then look at the pictures themselves. They're not evenly aged.


so you have no need to look thru the thread? No need to read the information that proves you wrong? You will just blindly make a conclusion without viewing evidence to the contrary?

That there is the height of arrogance and closed mindedness.

OG


It's a prop...what more do I need? I don't feel like playing the "is this the smoking gun" bs. I bet my soul it's probably already been said LOL. I know it's a prop...I've researched this awhile ago and after extensive review determined it a hoax. I believe he was led to believe it was true...but alas it isn't. I've already given other examples in this thread but typical ats overlook the other inconveniences against their belief.

Edit: Guess I get to keep my soul another day LOL - 10-23-2014 by OrionsGem because: (no reason given) .... If this is genuine, then can this be considered the smoking gun? OG

ATS...So predictable.
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: Jenisiz

Do you listen to yourself? By refusing to look at the evidence that proves your wrong, it's actually you who overlooks things in order to stay within your beliefs. Re read what you just posted and you'll realize how hypocritical you sound. .

OG



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: Bilk22

What's your experience? Credentials?

you first



weren't you the one who brought up your credentials? What are they? The public demands to know!

OG


Not that I know of. I asked someone for more details on a certain aspect of this case which dealt with mental health in elderly because I wanted to understand better how that was determined. I got a reasonable response and they offered up their experience which they didn't have to. I added that had done a similar line of work and that I was able to determine that Bushman was not retarded. So I am qualified to identify retardisms of various kinds and, quite frankly....



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: ZetaRediculian

originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: Bilk22

What's your experience? Credentials?

you first



weren't you the one who brought up your credentials? What are they? The public demands to know!

OG


Not that I know of. I asked someone for more details on a certain aspect of this case which dealt with mental health in elderly because I wanted to understand better how that was determined. I got a reasonable response and they offered up their experience which they didn't have to. I added that had done a similar line of work and that I was able to determine that Bushman was not retarded. So I am qualified to identify retardisms of various kinds and, quite frankly....


ah my mistake it was another poster, fortean...you ended up speaking for him hence my confusion. A thousand apologies. ..

OG



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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Overlooked what? A futile debate where people are jumping to conclusions? I don't hang around ATS and wait for reports to come in. I've ALREADY researched this entire topic before. All the videos and even articles not posted in the OP. What's the point of arguing about something being a pickle when it's already been dipped in vinegar? You can't go back.

Care to address the other points I made in my thread aside from the prop? That's just more weight to the bs scale.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: Bilk22

Read my postings. They describe exactly how I researched Boyd's scientific credentials: I used Googles built-in patent search. I searched Google Scholar. I also searched a number of scientific on-line libraries I'm entitled to use. Alas, these are not for the general public - not because they are filled with secret materials but because they are full of COPYRIGHTED materials. You need to be a tutor, scientist or student to gain access (and pay for the privilege).

About my credentials: they are sufficient. But what's the use of me saying that? You won't believe me anyway



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: Jenisiz
Overlooked what? A futile debate where people are jumping to conclusions? I don't hang around ATS and wait for reports to come in. I've ALREADY researched this entire topic before. All the videos and even articles not posted in the OP. What's the point of arguing about something being a pickle when it's already been dipped in vinegar? You can't go back.

Care to address the other points I made in my thread aside from the prop? That's just more weight to the bs scale.


um so you say "why should i look thru this thread"

i reply because the evidence proving your assertions are wrong is posted in this thread.

You say "i don't need to see evidence that I'm wrong because I've already learned everything there is to know" (not the exact words but u get the point)

Where exactly is the disconnect occuring here? Unless you read the entire thread you cannot make educated statements about said thread.

Not sure how much more i can simplify this for you to grasp. .

OG
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: OrionsGem



i reply because the evidence proving your assertions are wrong is posted in this thread.

What evidence is that, exactly?



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: OrionsGem



i reply because the evidence proving your assertions are wrong is posted in this thread.

What evidence is that, exactly?


read the thread; is not my job to serve everything up on a silver platter because you refuse to do the research yourself.



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: OrionsGem



i reply because the evidence proving your assertions are wrong is posted in this thread.

What evidence is that, exactly?


read the thread; is not my job to serve everything up on a silver platter because you refuse to do the research yourself.


I read the entire thread an I still have no clue what evidence you are talking about. the only evidence I have seen is evidence of this "alien" being a prop. none whatsoever that its ANYTHING else. unless you have a real alien to compare...



posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: OrionsGem



i reply because the evidence proving your assertions are wrong is posted in this thread.

What evidence is that, exactly?


read the thread; is not my job to serve everything up on a silver platter because you refuse to do the research yourself.



Lol... quick glancing shows exactly what I said. People arguing over if the prop is real or not. Some say yes and some say no. What's the definitive truth now? I see a prop and ALOT of opinions. I am not choosing to accept bs with comments supposedly claiming truth akin to, "they made the prop after the real thing" or "is this the smoking gun" that are just reoccurring cliches. I did a quick search and low and behold both those comments are in here just like dozens of other threads. I'm still waiting for some good proof, still haven't found it. No one has gone on about other key factors that disprove this... why?
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posted on Oct, 26 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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Indeed, your mother was right. People should be careful what they say on forums and other public places on the Internet. A mother writes on Facebook: "I'm so happy! We're going on a trip this weekend!" - and finds herself robbed when they return. A cop posts regular tweets "Drinking coffee at Wendies now.", "Having lunch with George at the Mac" etc. and wonders how the criminals always strike just on his opposite side of Town. A criminal finds a CV on line. It contains the name, place of birth, address and signature of the innocent ignorant whose identity is promptly stolen. The list goes on and on.

Your mother was right allright.
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