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posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 06:44 PM
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Hello all,

I'm looking for some info on a demon which goes by allocer/alloces. Looking for more info than is available from a cursory web search. I'm asking because there seems to be an entity in my home claiming this name. As a side note my toddler son seems to be interacting with this entity or another one which may be here. Recent audio recording indicate there may be more than one entity.

Not looking for a debate on the existence of demons right now, just looking for info on this one which may help us make decisions on how to address this.

Thanks in advance,

XTexan



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posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: XTexan

Most of demonology is disinformation fabricated by the demonic realm for the manipulation humans. If you really want to put an end to the problem, believe that Jesus died for your sins on the cross,confess your known sins to God the Father, and ask God to remove the demon(s) in Jesus name.

From that point on, study the word of God and apply what you learn to everyday life.

Apart from that, there is no permanent solution to demonism. The more you fight back, the more of a slave you become to the demon...I know.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: XTexan

I've never heard of this guy but a little bit of searching says that he induces people to immortality and teaches the arts and the mysteries of the sky. It also said that he was a Grand Duke with 36 legions of demons.

I don't know what you did or what he wants, but trying to fight him will not end well for you or your son.

I suggest holy water sprinkle liberally around the house, kosher sea salt above every window sill and door sill, getting a bible and telling him that he is not welcome. Or ask him what he wants. Sometimes they just want to talk.

Your son can see him because of something that children under the age of 12 possess. If he starts acting weird, don't be alarmed. They can't possess him but they can talk to him.

I'm sure ATS will tell you that you and your son are crazy, but be strong and read holy scripture out loud every so often. That is the key to ridding your house of unwanted guests.

Don't try any "exorcists" because a)They're almost always fake b) if they aren't fake but aren't well versed they may make the problem worse, C)if they're legit and expel your unwanted guests, they'll be really expensive



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: XTexan
Hello all,

I'm looking for some info on a demon which goes by allocer/alloces. Looking for more info than is available from a cursory web search. I'm asking because there seems to be an entity in my home claiming this name. As a side note my toddler son seems to be interacting with this entity or another one which may be here. Recent audio recording indicate there may be more than one entity.

Not looking for a debate on the existence of demons right now, just looking for info on this one which may help us make decisions on how to address this.

Thanks in advance,

XTexan


If your not the type who is inclined to practice rituals etc..perhaps you should contact a religious figure of your choosing to help expel the demon.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Everyone in the house is saved and baptized, with the exception if my son who is to young to comprehend. Also one member of the house has PTSD, it seems to be playing that card to cause agitation and anger so it can feed off it.

Performing a ritual is not out of the question but we would have no idea what or how

edit on 22-10-2014 by XTexan because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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Most of the original texts where in such beings can be located are found here..
Sacred Texts
In particular these deal with the "christian" mythos and spirits...

This is about your demon specifically....and its interesting you mention PTSD as this demon is referred to as a soldier...
Alocer



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: XTexan

Its good that you are saved, that means you dont have to worry about possession. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT PERFORM RITUAL. That is what the demon wants. It will use it like a hook to lure you into thinking that you have won.

If you havent already, then use 1 John 1:9 regularly to confess your know sins to the Father. This means that the Holy Spirit will fill you and guide you. The demon will tempt you to sin with fear and conflict. When you give in, just use 1 John 1:9 again. Ask God to send the demon away. If you are confronted, rebuke the demon in Jesus name. Ask God for guidance, and search the scriptures. Remember, that God may simply be allowing the demon to test your faithfulness, like Job. You well not be tested beuond your capacity. Dont neglect bible study under a Pastor you are comfortable with.

I deal with this from time to time. Eventually the demon realizes that you have no vulnerabilities if you remain in fellowship with God, and goes away
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Holywater and salt is not the answer, nor is Medieval Demonology.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:20 PM
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Just voicing my opinion based on personal experience...

The more you feed into this, the more of a problem you are going to have. I'm not saying ignore it, but the more energy you expel, the more it gains. Remember, just like a child, any attention is good attention. I got rid of my issues with a "friendly ghost" by simply allowing time to pass and not feeding into any fears, acknowledging his presence, etc. You can surly be your own temple so to speak and be strong enough to deal with it. You just have to be strong.

Also, it's difficult to find many religious figures to deal with this type of stuff anymore. If they fail at getting rid of the problem, they run the risk of losing their rights to preach/be a pastor, etc. Because the church will not view them as men (or people) of God. So most don't even bother. But that's in my state. Could be different if you are in more of a conservative, religious friendly state.

Good luck to you.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: XTexan



Ever heard of Barakiel? Fun times ahead of you... ;p



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:25 PM
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Spirituality tells me that the child is probably the focus of attention as traditionally young children seem to be the thresholds by which such entities gain entrance. With entrance gained, the fear and anxiety of the PTSD patient would be like food to such an entity.

Psychology tells me that the person in the house with PTSD might be having issues and is allowing the child, but not other adults, to see their pain and turmoil. The child, in turn, is manifesting his or her discomfort in the form of an imaginary friend.

If you are of a mind to believe the first possibility, then faith is your answer. Belief that it will be done is key to it being done.

If you are of a mind to believe the second possibility, then it's time for an intervention.

As a PTSD patient myself, I can tell you that delusions can be a part of the symptoms.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: XTexan

Not all demons are bad in the human realm of understanding, such as the one you speak. There relations and previous actions make them seem a certain way.

I need to ask you a couple questions.
Do you own or have a bird?(winged animal or insect also, as long as you gave it a name)
Have you been considering a pet recently?
How old is your son?
Has anyone been injured in any way by this?

Let me know if you want.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:34 PM
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Whatever you do, don't handle this yourself. You need someone with experience who knows what they're doing.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

So save yourself from one demon by believing in a fairy tale.... Good call. I think you should be the president of the united states with advice like that.

Take these pills, pay these taxes and do your job. Hyuck.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:41 PM
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Be careful demons dont offer up their names as a general rule because if you know it it simplifies getting rid of them,unless this entity believes you are not a threat then it might tell you



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:48 PM
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Now this is why I Joined ATS.


Try calling him albert... Ive had success with this.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Hijinx

A little faith can take you a long way. You should try it some time.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: AnteBellum
a reply to: XTexan

Not all demons are bad in the human realm of understanding, such as the one you speak. There relations and previous actions make them seem a certain way.

I need to ask you a couple questions.
Do you own or have a bird?(winged animal or insect also, as long as you gave it a name)
Have you been considering a pet recently?
How old is your son?
Has anyone been injured in any way by this?

Let me know if you want.


No birds, though me and my wife both had one in the past. We have 4 dogs, a cat, and a gecko. We recently had a ferret and snake pass away. Wife wants a pet rat. Son is 2 1/2. No injuries.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: XTexan

As per your request, here is information concerning Allocer for you, as my own spiritual proclivities no doubt differ from your own (and those of the majority of the comments thus far) I'm not going to offer any suggestion on what to do, only help with insight into what the entity may be doing.

Allocer is a demon appearing in the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum and the Lemegeton (Lesser Key of Solomon the King). These attributes mark Allocer as a Medieval demon from the superstitious mind of European Christianity, not a traditional demon from Judaism or another Ancient Near Eastern faith (like Mesopotamian polytheism, Egyptian polytheism, or Zoroastrianism).

According to the Lemegeton Allocer is one of the 16 Dukes of Hell, whose office ranks fourth in command in the Regents of Hell hierarchy. A small overview of said hierarchy is provided below:

FALLEN ANGELS

First Choir
• Seraphim (5)
• Cherubim (2)
• Thrones (8)

Second Choir
• Dominations (5)
• Powers (7)
• Virtues (8)

Third Choir
• Principalities (2)
• Archangels (2)
• Angels (2)

HELL'S MILITARY

• Prime Minister
• Ambassador
• General (2)
• Lieutenant General
• Major General
• Brigadier General
• Colonel

REGENTS OF HELL

• King (3) — Sun
• Prince (7) — Jupiter
• Marquis (11) — Moon
• Duke (16) — Venus
• Earl (5) — Mars
• President (11) — Mercury
• Knight (1) — Saturn


As a Duke Allocer's governing sphere is the planet Venus. Venusian entities often serve as catalysts in life, challenging the status quo and upsetting order and balance. Allocer is also believed to cause immorality, teach astronomy, and help Man understand the power of the stars. He has at his command 36 legions of lesser-demons.

In the "dance of planets," which can be witnessed with careful observation of the night sky over a length of time, Venus is erratic in her movements, often causing Mercury and Mars to deviate from their own path, uncertain of where they're going (Mercury and Mars representing mental clarity and filial duty). Venus is therefore an agent of change, causing things which had settled to flash into motion again, and younger generations to deviate from the "wisdom" of their elders (which may or may not always be so wise).

Venusian entities are also said to come with sexual and psychological illusions. This may just be due to the more recent trend to associate seemingly rampant sexuality with escapism, immorality, and mental disease. It may be nothing more than modern European beliefs on traditional sexual behavior "poisoning the well" so to speak.


Well, there you go. Hope this gives you a little bit more insight.


~ Wandering Scribe


edit on 22/10/14 by Wandering Scribe because: correct some code



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
Be careful demons dont offer up their names as a general rule because if you know it it simplifies getting rid of them,unless this entity believes you are not a threat then it might tell you


It did not offer its name, its name was in a recording and was percieved to say "alloces is here" Hence the belief of more than one entity



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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There are no Demons friend.

There is no SATAN there is no GOD

It's all NONSENSE and CHILDISH SUPERSTITION.


Understand that and all the bullcarp crumbles away. No ghosts, no Karma, no demons, no angels, no miracles, Just you and your LIFE.

Stop expecting some non-existent supernatural entity to solve all your problems for you.



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