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California Forces Churches to Directly Fund Abortions, Churches Refuse to Comply?

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posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:23 PM
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Looks like more abortion/religious laws are taking shape.

I don't quite understand this one or if it's even true.

Explanations required....



To the dismay of California’s people of faith, the California Department of Managed Health Care has reclassified abortion as a “basic health service” under the Affordable Care Act and ordered all insurance plans in the state to begin covering surgical abortions immediately Even churches are not exempt from funding abortions.

Rescue opposes this policy that forces men and women who deeply oppose abortion on religious grounds to fund surgical abortion in violation of their faith, and encourages others to oppose it as well.

“Since Obamacare was first introduced, we warned that the day could come when Christians would be required by the state to violate their consciences through forced payments for abortion,” said Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue. “Now, with this mandate in California that imposes forced abortion funding on churches, it has come time for men and women of faith to stand against this tyranny and refuse to comply with this unjust law that would make us accessories to the taking of innocent human life.”


California Forces Churches to Directly Fund Abortions, Churches Refuse to Comply





posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

This should make for an interesting conversation, I'm going to get the popcorn for this one.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I think it can be assumed that kalifornia has been completely taken over by environmentalist atheist communists at this point. They gave up their gun rights willingly, so they're screwed. See what happens, kids?



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Let's just call it the church paying their fair share maybe?

I dunno, I'd give them the choice. This or pay taxes.

They'll get the exemption though I'm sure.

Al Sharpton will make sure of that.

~Tenth



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You know I am pro abortion but darn that sounds like BS propaganda by the anti abortion right to me, xuenchen.




posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Darn xuenchen it is a "pro life propaganda site"

shame on you.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

I don't see anything wrong with it. Forcing churches (of which are tax free) to provide funding when everyone else has to is not a bad thing. So what if their religion forbids it? Unless you're an extremist religion isn't supposed to be used to control what people can or can't do with their bodies. Religion is a PERSONAL choice, not a rule of law we must abide to. What do you mean see what happens? What have you done to personally help avoid this "take-over"?



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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So lemme get this straight.
Abortions are a basic health service, but my wife's jaw being out of alignment causing great pain is "cosmetic" and therefore a dental issue. Hence not covered by insurance.
Wtf!



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:42 PM
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*facepalm*

Quickly, people will say, abortion is the law.
Religious people can't disobey the law.
Christians are stupid.
Shut up and pay for the damned abortions.
It's the law.


There.

An entire thread done in one post.




posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: InfinityandBeyond
a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

I don't see anything wrong with it. Forcing churches (of which are tax free) to provide funding when everyone else has to is not a bad thing. So what if their religion forbids it? Unless you're an extremist religion isn't supposed to be used to control what people can or can't do with their bodies. Religion is a PERSONAL choice, not a rule of law we must abide to. What do you mean see what happens? What have you done to personally help avoid this "take-over"?


Separation of Church and State comes to mind.

Also, you are not doing something to "your" body when you abort a living fetus. You are killing another human. There is no gray area on that one, regardless of how liberal atheists like to argue otherwise.

To back that argument up a bit, in Kalifornia, if you kill a pregnant woman, you can be charged with TWO murders, yet abortion is heavily promoted in that atheist wasteland. Explain THAT hypocrisy.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
So lemme get this straight.
Abortions are a basic health service, but my wife's jaw being out of alignment causing great pain is "cosmetic" and therefore a dental issue. Hence not covered by insurance.
Wtf!


In a communist utopia - yes.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
So lemme get this straight.
Abortions are a basic health service, but my wife's jaw being out of alignment causing great pain is "cosmetic" and therefore a dental issue. Hence not covered by insurance.
Wtf!


THAT is a good point !!




posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: marg6043



Well I knew I was confused about something !!




posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: InfinityandBeyond
a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

I don't see anything wrong with it. Forcing churches (of which are tax free) to provide funding when everyone else has to is not a bad thing. So what if their religion forbids it? Unless you're an extremist religion isn't supposed to be used to control what people can or can't do with their bodies. Religion is a PERSONAL choice, not a rule of law we must abide to. What do you mean see what happens? What have you done to personally help avoid this "take-over"?


So me refusing to pay for someone else's abortion is me somehow controlling what they do with their body?

Did I have anything to do with them getting their body pregnant in the first place?
edit on 22-10-2014 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: Hoosierdaddy71

I know what you means, I also have TMJ and can not get a doctor for that, my insurance doesn't cover it, I had to use massage and warming pads when its starts to act up.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

I can't tell you how much I appreciate seeing integrity in a person that generally holds very opposite viewpoints than myself. I hope you get applause for that. Well done Marg.




posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You know that if Hobby lobby got away with their crap about religion and believes you know this is no going to happen either.




posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Thanks, !!!!

I think xuenchen did this thread as a satire, but you never know, taking into consideration all the stuff is going on with new laws behind the Obamacare, this issue will probably end up in the supreme court.

But then again Hobby Lobby won their claim that was just along the lines.




posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: xuenchen

You know that if Hobby lobby got away with their crap about religion and believes you know this is no going to happen either.



Yup.

You can bet good money on that methinks.

~Tenth



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

We had a tmj specialist make a splint for my wife.
$4000!
But it does work very well




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