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The Qlippoth as a Crystal of Knowledge; An Independent Realm of Sorcery

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posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 09:58 AM
a reply to: fakedirt

My treading down Jewish Mysticism began through direct experience, which lead me into Torah study, which lead me to studying of the prophets and getting into numerology, studying and meditating on the nature of the Merkhaba, geometry, and now recently into looking into the Zohar and later Hermetic texts. I do have a few individuals I talk to that live, eat and breath Kabbalism, one of whom is from a purely Jewish perspective who attempts to learn the original Rabbinic interpretations and several of whom are from a more universalist perspective who try to understand it within the broader context of mysticism on a more global scale.

I do not have a teacher guiding me in oral tradition, which I would enjoy, but unless such a person was a Rabbi who learned from a Rabbi, how could I know they were teaching me correctly, and even then as a Goyim, how could I ever know they are teaching me correctly? I do have several of what the Jews might call Maggida or extradimensional guides showing me visions and whispering allegories in my mind while I read a text, unlocking deeper layers of understanding. One thing Violet Firth mentioned early in her book on Kabbalah that I do think resonates with me is that through the addition of outside practitioners, Kabbalism has grown to become a much richer tradition, so there is edification in learning the Hermetic understandings even if they are not studied by Rabbis.

The reason that I am most interested in Kabbalism is that I was not Jewish. I knew nothing of Hebrew or the Jewish faith when these experiences began happening, and Kabbalism and broader Jewish Mysticism are the only traditions that have accurately described the experiences I've undergone. Not to mention the lettering I saw dancing before my eyes was clearly Hebrew. So, apparently, if nothing else, the Maggida that is compelling me apparently comes from a Hebrew tradition, so for me to ignore Kabbalism is for me to miss out on much of the communication that is being bestowed upon me.

posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 07:44 PM
a reply to: Nechash

Are you Jewish or not? Did you convert?

Let me explain, Torah is the written tradition, all the rest are legends and opinions of rabbis. When you see something that is "rabbinical council" that means that a group of rabbis sat down with each other in a minyan and gave their opinions on a particular subject.

Don't take anything outside of Torah as anything else than that. The Zohar? Just legends and folk tales. The fact that you are making more out of it when they even say it is just that, show me that you really don't know much about it.

Even if you asked a lot of Jewish people now if they believe what Rambam said, they laugh, because they don't all believe it. Whenever I hear someone say "Jewish mysticism" it just means they have grabbed onto another gnostic tool they think is super cool to attempt to practice. Have you converted? Unless you convert you won't get a rabbi who will teach oral tradition. You should stick with Torah.

Are you thinking that you might learn the secret name of God and are going to raise the Golem? You know that's the end goal of Kabbahla, didn't you?

posted on Oct, 25 2014 @ 08:01 PM
a reply to: WarminIndy

No. I have no goal in this. The only reason I've even sought out Jewish texts is because the imagery I've been seeing is largely from the Old Testament and often has Hebrew lettering and themes. Actually, I've been resistant to self-sacrifice, so I don't see how I can really go very far in Kabbalistic teachings anyway based on what public Kabbalists say, it seems offering yourself up is kind of part of the program.

As I said before, I've been disabused of the idea of learning the name of God. Apparently it gives you the power to redesign reality, and while my intentions are good, good intentions can often lead to widespread destruction. I don't really know where to go from here at this point. I'm much more aware of how deluded we all are and how different reality really is from the way we perceive things, but I don't know where to go next on this journey at all.

The things of this world have never mattered to me, this is the only thing that has ever fed my hunger, and it seems I'm inherently incompatible with its teachings, so where does that leave me? Adrift?
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posted on Oct, 27 2014 @ 02:49 PM
a reply to: Nechash

hello nechash
many thanks for your reply. I feel you are sincere in this endeavour and I wish you the best to future discoveries. upon initially finding your thread I may have mis-interpreted the meaning of the header presented. upon
contemplation of this header my thought process directed me to Farrell's speculations (giza death star materials). my speculation (very tenuous one at that) is that the qlippoth could be the void/fracture within the crystal lattice. on a physical level that would mean a fixed immobile region (static) whereas to marry it to the speculations that the qlippoth exists either on the adverse side of the respective sefiroth or is borne below malkuth and has access to the latter, is difficult.
for the past several weeks a study of wallis budges' Egyptian interpretations have grabbed my attention whilst sepher raziel is on the cards in the not too distant future.

best wishes fakedirt

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