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originally posted by: MGaddafi
a reply to: lambros56
Ah someone who doesnt completely buy into the MSM. I applaud your research.
originally posted by: JimTSpock
a reply to: MALBOSIA
I think it's a lot more complicated than that. In Libya as in many other middle east countries there are a lot of different factions, militia groups and extremist groups. What we see in Libya now are some of these groups fighting for control and many of them played a part in defeating Gaddafi's forces. They are mainly Libyan groups consisting of Libyan people so Libyan people overthrew Gaddafi. I think it was clear I said the Libyan people are now responsible for governing their own country which they are trying to do. In my opinion the rival factions will be fighting each other for some time to come and a stable government may be difficult to achieve. In a way I think this was inevitable. Gaddafi and his regime couldn't last forever. There was some US and western intervention against Gaddafi, probably a bit of payback for Lockerbie and other things. But they just helped a bit I think he still would've been finished in the Arab spring.
Interim authorities have been steadily losing ground to armed rebels and the Fajr Libya alliance, which has seized Tripoli airport after weeks of fierce fighting with nationalist rivals.
Libya has been embroiled for weeks of political infighting and violence that has killed and wounded dozens on all sides.
The country has slid into chaos since Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown and killed three years ago, with interim authorities confronting powerful armed groups, which fought to oust the veteran dictator.
re-formed to help fight in the uprising against Gaddafi in 2011.
Libya’s small army and air force have mostly defected to Haftar. Libya’s armed forces fought on both Gaddafi and the rebel side in the 2011 uprising.
Zintan's militias are the second most powerful armed force in Libya, after Misrata, and based in the Nafusa mountains
Based in eastern Libya and dedicated to establishing a caliphate in Libya, it differs from Libya Shield in refusing to recognise the constitutional government, issuing a statement opposing Haftar
Misrata’s 235 militia brigades are collectively the most powerful single force in Libya, fighting through a six-month siege during the uprising.
February 17, 2011
'Day of Rage'
Seen by many as the start of the revolution, Libya's "Day of Rage" brings thousands of people into the streets to protest against Gaddafi's rule. Major demonstrations take place in Benghazi, Ajdabiya, Darnah and Zintan, among others. Gaddafi forces respond by firing live ammunition at the crowds, allegedly killing more than a dozen demonstrators. Protests continue to escalate after February 17, with widespread reports that Gaddafi has hired mercenaries to supplement his security forces and suppress the demonstrations.
Ibrahim Jibreel, a Libyan opposition member based in Barcelona, told Al Jazeera, "I think the demonstrations are going to be rather serious.
"Libyan people have been oppressed for more than 41 years and they see to the west and to the east of them, people have been able to rise and to change their fate."
State media reported there were pro-Gaddafi protests too across the country, with people chanting "We sacrifice our blood and souls for you, our leader!" and "We are a generation built by Muammar and anyone who opposes it will be destroyed!"
However, Jibreel said, "There are few who come out in support of the dictator in Libya and they are not going to succeed.
The Congressional harrying of former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over emails concerning the 2012 death of an American Ambassador and three staff members in Benghazi, Libya, has become a sort of running joke, with Republicans claiming “cover-up” and Democrats dismissing the whole matter as nothing more than election year politics. But there is indeed a story embedded in the emails, one that is deeply damning of American and French actions in the Libyan civil war, from secretly funding the revolt against Muammar Gaddafi, to the willingness to use journalism as a cover for covert action.
The latest round of emails came to light June 22 in a fit of Republican pique over Clinton’s prevarications concerning whether she solicited intelligence from her advisor, journalist and former aide to President Bill Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal. If most newspaper readers rolled their eyes at this point and decided to check out the ball scores, one can hardly blame them.
But that would be a big mistake.
While the emails do raise questions about Hillary Clinton’s veracity, the real story is how French intelligence plotted to overthrow the Libyan leader in order to claim a hefty slice of Libya’s oil production and “favorable consideration” for French businesses.
The courier in this cynical undertaking was journalist and right-wing philosopher Bernard Henri-Levy, a man who has yet to see a civil war that he doesn’t advocate intervening in, from Yugoslavia to Syria. According to Julian Pecquet, the U.S. congressional correspondent for the Turkish publication Al-Monitor, Henri-Levy claims he got French President Nicolas Sarkozy to back the Benghazi-based Libyan Transitional National Council that was quietly being funded by the General Directorate for External Security (DGSE), the French CIA.