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Is there an organized effort to undermine the Aliens and UFOs forum?

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posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: draknoir2
on a brighter note, a couple of weeks ago, we were previewing some god awful ufo/alien "documentary". I asked if he wanted to watch it and he said "I don't want to give those people my money". So I told him he was a good boy and took him out for ice cream.

And I have no doubt that I could demolish him in a debate about aliens.


My money is on the kid. But, the apple/ tree thing.




posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: MAC269
a reply to: debonkers

Dear debonkers

Well I hope I speak wisely, I do try.

Ok using the term skeptic I was being nice just for once.

Just about anybody who takes the word of any government could be described as being foolhardy, there I am being nice again.

However it dose all go to proving my point in that people will refute, refute, and refute what is there without looking into the situation if it doesn’t suit their mindset.


How would you characterize those who accept the word of any online UFO conspiracy theorist without question? Or is that different?


Here's another prejudicial euphemism, "conspiracy theorist". Put that right up there with "debunker".



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: debonkers

Really? I saw a Ferrari today, no evidence it was made in Italy?


Other than the make, model, and logo emblazoned on the body. Of course you could be lying. Also Italy has been proven to exist.



These posts work better if you think before you type.


And yet you're still doing it wrong.
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posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: MAC269
a reply to: debonkers

Dear debonkers

Well I hope I speak wisely, I do try.

Ok using the term skeptic I was being nice just for once.

Just about anybody who takes the word of any government could be described as being foolhardy, there I am being nice again.

However it dose all go to proving my point in that people will refute, refute, and refute what is there without looking into the situation if it doesn’t suit their mindset.


How would you characterize those who accept the word of any online UFO conspiracy theorist without question? Or is that different?


Here's another prejudicial euphemism, "conspiracy theorist". Put that right up there with "debunker".


Nice deflection. Not an answer though, Bonkers.
edit on 1-2-2015 by draknoir2 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: debonkers


Poor kid.

You should have listened to what your son had to say, he knows more about the subject than you seem to. Instead, you push the "official story" of denial on him.

I raise my kids to think for themselves. He did. Now go away.



Similar thing with my son. On more than one occasion he hit me with a "Everyone knows Fox News lies".

I asked him to give one example. He couldn't. The lesson was to avoid looking like a moron you should be able to back up your assertion with something more than "that's what I heard".


Poor kid.

Your son was absolutely right and you gave him a hard time? Way to go, dad.

Your son was indeed correct, Fox News does indeed lie.

In fact, they were convicted of lying in a court of law. You should know what you're talking about before you try and correct someone, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself in front of your son.

Unfortunately, Fox's conviction for lying was overturned on appeal, the position of Fox's lawyers was that Fox News has "the constitutional right to broadcast false information."

You cannot pretend that Fox News doesn't lie, it is their legal position that they do indeed lie.

Now, be a good father and go tell your son he was right.
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posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: debonkers

Really? I saw a Ferrari today, no evidence it was made in Italy?


Other than the make, model, and logo emblazoned on the body. Of course you could be lying. Also Italy has been proven to exist.



These posts work better if you think before you type.


And yet you're still doing it wrong.


This was an epic fail for you. Most people would have the sense to be embarrassed.



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: debonkers

Still waiting for an intellectually honest answer to my question, Bonkers.



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: debonkers
its funny how when people get banned and sign up with a new account, they cant hide their ignorance.




posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: draknoir2
a reply to: debonkers

Still waiting for an intellectually honest answer to my question, Bonkers.


What question is that? I'm happy to answer if I can.

I still can't get over your statement:

" NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine."

So the Ferrari I saw today, no evidence that it came from Italy?

Still standing by your rather foolish statement?



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: debonkers


Poor kid.

You should have listened to what your son had to say, he knows more about the subject than you seem to. Instead, you push the "official story" of denial on him.

I raise my kids to think for themselves. He did. Now go away.



Similar thing with my son. On more than one occasion he hit me with a "Everyone knows Fox News lies".

I asked him to give one example. He couldn't. The lesson was to avoid looking like a moron you should be able to back up your assertion with something more than "that's what I heard".


Poor kid.

Your son was absolutely right and you gave him a hard time? Way to go, dad.

Your son was indeed correct, Fox News does indeed lie.

In fact, they were convicted of lying in a court of law. You should know what you're talking about before you try and correct someone, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself in front of your son.

Unfortunately, Fox's conviction for lying was overturned on appeal, the position of Fox's lawyers was that Fox News has "the constitutional right to broadcast false information."

You cannot pretend that Fox News doesn't lie, it is their legal position that they do indeed lie.

Now, be a good father and go tell your son he was right.


Apparently the lesson escapes you. Not at all surprising, Bonkers.

Here's a clue: Whether they lie wasn't the point.



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: debonkers
its funny how when people get banned and sign up with a new account, they cant hide their ignorance.



They sure can't. What did you get banned for?



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2
a reply to: debonkers

Still waiting for an intellectually honest answer to my question, Bonkers.


What question is that? I'm happy to answer if I can.

I still can't get over your statement:

" NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine."

So the Ferrari I saw today, no evidence that it came from Italy?

Still standing by your rather foolish statement?


You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

Use the scroll bar and re-read as needed.



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2
a reply to: debonkers

Still waiting for an intellectually honest answer to my question, Bonkers.


What question is that? I'm happy to answer if I can.

I still can't get over your statement:

" NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine."

So the Ferrari I saw today, no evidence that it came from Italy?

Still standing by your rather foolish statement?


You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

Use the scroll bar and re-read as needed.


You asked a question about conspiracy theorists, is that what you are referring to? As I responded initially, the term "conspiracy theorist" is a heavily biased euphemism, extremely pejorative. I wouldn't know anything about "conspiracy theorists". Not the type of person I associate with.

Now that I have addressed your question, kindly stop deflecting mine:

Do you stand by your statement, " NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine" ?

I'll await your answer, thank you.
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posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2
a reply to: debonkers

Still waiting for an intellectually honest answer to my question, Bonkers.


What question is that? I'm happy to answer if I can.

I still can't get over your statement:

" NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine."

So the Ferrari I saw today, no evidence that it came from Italy?

Still standing by your rather foolish statement?


You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

Use the scroll bar and re-read as needed.


You asked a question about conspiracy theorists, is that what you are referring to? As I responded initially, the term "conspiracy theorist" is a heavily biased euphemism, extremely pejorative. I wouldn't know anything about "conspiracy theorists". Not the type of person I associate with.

Now that I have addressed your question, kindly stop deflecting mine:

Do you stand by your statement, " NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine" ?

I'll await your answer, thank you.


I didn't ask with whom you associate, but never mind. I'm no longer interested in your opinions.

And I cannot stand by a statement that I did not make.

You're welcome.



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: draknoir2

On a related note. I once had a pimple on my ass. It finally went away when I stopped picking at it.


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posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2
a reply to: debonkers

Still waiting for an intellectually honest answer to my question, Bonkers.


What question is that? I'm happy to answer if I can.

I still can't get over your statement:

" NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine."

So the Ferrari I saw today, no evidence that it came from Italy?

Still standing by your rather foolish statement?


You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

Use the scroll bar and re-read as needed.


You asked a question about conspiracy theorists, is that what you are referring to? As I responded initially, the term "conspiracy theorist" is a heavily biased euphemism, extremely pejorative. I wouldn't know anything about "conspiracy theorists". Not the type of person I associate with.

Now that I have addressed your question, kindly stop deflecting mine:

Do you stand by your statement, " NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine" ?

I'll await your answer, thank you.


I didn't ask with whom you associate, but never mind. I'm no longer interested in your opinions.

And I cannot stand by a statement that I did not make.

You're welcome.


I quoted you correctly, did I not?



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: debonkers


Poor kid.

You should have listened to what your son had to say, he knows more about the subject than you seem to. Instead, you push the "official story" of denial on him.

I raise my kids to think for themselves. He did. Now go away.




I'm sure you do. In between your two hundred posts this month.


You're way out of line talking about people's kids.



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: debonkers

originally posted by: draknoir2
a reply to: debonkers

Still waiting for an intellectually honest answer to my question, Bonkers.


What question is that? I'm happy to answer if I can.

I still can't get over your statement:

" NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine."

So the Ferrari I saw today, no evidence that it came from Italy?

Still standing by your rather foolish statement?


You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

Use the scroll bar and re-read as needed.


You asked a question about conspiracy theorists, is that what you are referring to? As I responded initially, the term "conspiracy theorist" is a heavily biased euphemism, extremely pejorative. I wouldn't know anything about "conspiracy theorists". Not the type of person I associate with.

Now that I have addressed your question, kindly stop deflecting mine:

Do you stand by your statement, " NO sighting of any machine is evidence of the origin of the machine" ?

I'll await your answer, thank you.


I didn't ask with whom you associate, but never mind. I'm no longer interested in your opinions.

And I cannot stand by a statement that I did not make.

You're welcome.


I quoted you correctly, did I not?


Seriously, what's your problem? The posts are still there. Figure it out, Bonkers.



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 06:51 PM
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A few days ago in the "Debunking Abduction Debunkers" thread you said:

...and it seems like this is a discussion between young persons, which is terrific.

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Well, that sounds to me like someone with little knowledge or understanding of the history of UFO sightings and alien contact. Or to be more precise, and you did ask me to be precise, it sounds like something a very young person would say. A child, to be precise.

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Young persons? I base that assumption simply on the available evidence, the level of discussion and knowledge of the subject.


Now you've jumped to the other side only a few days later with:

But, the bright side is, young people aren't buying that bull anymore, they're too bright to fall for the tired excuses, they know alien contact is happening, and actually happened decades ago.


Is this the inconsistent, wishy-washy methodology that you use to determine if aliens are piloting UFOs? That would explain a few things.

Will I get a passive aggressive response too? I can only hope....



posted on Feb, 1 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
a reply to: debonkers


Poor kid.

You should have listened to what your son had to say, he knows more about the subject than you seem to. Instead, you push the "official story" of denial on him.

I raise my kids to think for themselves. He did. Now go away.



Similar thing with my son. On more than one occasion he hit me with a "Everyone knows Fox News lies".

I asked him to give one example. He couldn't. The lesson was to avoid looking like a moron you should be able to back up your assertion with something more than "that's what I heard".


Great lesson but it is true that they lie and they have been caught in it more than a few times....

(cough cough, WMD's found in Iraq, Death Panels, etc)




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