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Expelled Nazis got millions in Social Security

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posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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Former Auschwitz guard Jakob Denzinger lived the American dream.

His plastics company in the Rust Belt town of Akron, Ohio, thrived. By the late 1980s, he had acquired the trappings of success: a Cadillac DeVille and a Lincoln Town Car, a lakefront home, investments in oil and real estate.

Then the Nazi hunters showed up.

In 1989, as the U.S. government prepared to strip him of his citizenship, Denzinger packed a pair of suitcases and fled to Germany. Denzinger later settled in this pleasant town on the Drava River, where he lives comfortably, courtesy of U.S. taxpayers. He collects a Social Security payment of about $1,500 each month, nearly twice the take-home pay of an average Croatian worker.

Expelled Nazis got millions in Social Security

Apparently the Justice dept made a deal with former Nazi's living in America. Leave now and you can keep your social security!

Insert facepalm pic here!
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posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 12:11 PM
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Apparently the Justice dept made a deal with former Nazi's living in America.

Yah, they helped the US government set up the security apparatus here, further develop Reich weapons here, and fight the "Red Menace".

Now, thanks to them we are winning. Now we are becoming the enemies our grandfathers fought against.
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posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 12:23 PM
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SnF OP - without your thread I would have never heard of this... this war crim is doing better than my VN ear Vets I dare say.

Hmmm this is not on Statue of Liberty's Plaque bring us your War Criminals, enemies of our nation who killed our kind, we will feed, house, and give you free medicine...

What administration did this deal?

Wonder why the Nazi Hunters could not expedite these fugitives from justice????



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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They did not get social security for free. They paid 7.5% of their salaries into the fund. So did their employers. They worked for at least ten years, some far far longer, as much a 40, at plain old jobs just like everyone else. They did not distinguish themselves. They did not get rich. Most of the jobs were factory jobs, working-class gigs that gave them a normal income and a normal life. Now, when you actually look at the actuarial tables, most workers die before they "use up" what they and their employers have put in, especially when you factor in interest which was never paid on their accounts. Oh, sure, some may have beaten the odds, but when you compare the return they got against a norisk long-term CD purchased yearly over their working lives, they got screwed, just as every worker in America gets screwed by the social security system.

Now, these guys when they were in their early twenties, were forced into service by a dictatorial regime and sent to assignments in the German military. Some of them joined the Nazi party. The reason they did was not for ideological reasons. They simply weren't stupid. They knew they would get a better deal if they were members. It's the same way today in America. If you are a card carrying member of the political party in power, you have an advantage.

And some of these guys probably did some awful things. Read some anti-American propaganda and you will find accounts of awful things American soldiers have done as well. Indeed, if the Americans had not won the war, you'd see a while different set of awful things.

The fact is there aren't many WWII survivors left. Those who are are 90 years old, and that means they were 20 at best when they were pressed into service. Some of them managed to escape the monstrosity of WW II Europe and get to America, the Land of Opportunity, where they managed to find a normal life.

So now here come the self-proclaimed "Nazi Hunters" who are going to "get these guys!" and when they find them they try to get them deported at their most vulnerable age, stripped of citizenship and any rights they have, including their retirement benefits, because once, when they were 20 years old, they were forced to serve the Nazis...

and they aren't useful, like Werner von Braun was useful and got a pass, even though there is no doubt at all he was directly and personally responsible for exploiting Jewish labor to build his rockets to bomb England.

You could just wait a couple of years and these few remaining guys would all be dead. But noooooo. We have to "get them." And you're upset that they still get their social security, something they worked 40 years to earn?

THAT'S the facepalm here.



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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If he paid into the system like other Americans do then he should be allowed to collect his SS even though he moved to another country. Other seniors move overseas and their SS isn't cut off. This is one part in the article that people who cry Nazi war criminal seem to overlook.


"He claims he was drafted into the army and he did as he was told. You do as you are told or they line you up against a wall and shoot you. You don't have any choice."

How many of these people that cry about the guards who had nothing to do with the killing should be tried and executed for serving in the Germany military would have let themselves be killed for refusing orders?



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 01:05 PM
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without your thread I would have never heard of this... this war crim is doing better than my VN ear Vets I dare say.

This "war crim" is now dead so he isn't doing any better than your VN vets.


Hmmm this is not on Statue of Liberty's Plaque bring us your War Criminals, enemies of our nation who killed our kind, we will feed, house, and give you free medicine...

Where is the proof he was a war criminal?


Wonder why the Nazi Hunters could not expedite these fugitives from justice????

Because a majority of the time the "evidence" that the Nazis hunters have is nothing but BS and actually doesn't link the "war Criminal" to any crimes. In America you have to have proof of the crime they committed to expedite them to another country.



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 02:00 PM
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damn guys



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
The fact is there aren't many WWII survivors left. Those who are are 90 years old, and that means they were 20 at best when they were pressed into service. Some of them managed to escape the monstrosity of WW II Europe and get to America, the Land of Opportunity, where they managed to find a normal life.

So now here come the self-proclaimed "Nazi Hunters" who are going to "get these guys!" and when they find them they try to get them deported at their most vulnerable age, stripped of citizenship and any rights they have, including their retirement benefits, because once, when they were 20 years old, they were forced to serve the Nazis...

and they aren't useful, like Werner von Braun was useful and got a pass, even though there is no doubt at all he was directly and personally responsible for exploiting Jewish labor to build his rockets to bomb England.

You could just wait a couple of years and these few remaining guys would all be dead. But noooooo. We have to "get them." And you're upset that they still get their social security, something they worked 40 years to earn?

THAT'S the facepalm here.


I agree and the thing that has always burned me the most is that the USA turned away Jews traveling on the ship the MS St Louis. Those people understood what was going to happen to them, very early on, yet some American bureaucrats were allowed to sign their death warrants.

They want to find all those old Nazis, but what are the names of the ALL the bureaucrats involved in sending away the MS St Louis? Their faces and names should be plastered all over the world in EVERY Holocaust museum labeling as "collaborators" and that they were "just following orders" i.e. the "Nuremberg Defense".



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 04:07 PM
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Written like a true boss!


Face it people, these Nazi's won. They lived, worked, and enjoyed their lives as free men. I doubt many care now at age 80+ should they be caught. Their lives are over, if it isn't for the "nazi hunters" (i.e., the old and feeble hunters), it'll be old age that gets them in the end.



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Swills

Is this number millions of dollars going to one person? At 1500 a month it would take about 55 years for one person to draw a million dollars.




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