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Originally posted by electric squid carpet
Katolu, this is a conspiracy related website, you do realise this dont you?
[edit on 9-12-2004 by electric squid carpet]
"I was up close to the stage on the side where Dimebag was playing," wrote one fan on the band's website. "Then I saw the guy jump out of the crowd onto the stage. He was yelling something about how 'You broke up Pantera, you ruined my life. What about Phil?' " - referring to Phil Anselmo, the Pantera singer who did not join Damageplan. " 'He needs heroin money.'
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I think you were only guilty of an over generalization, which, by the way, is not indicative of any particular age. However, I do believe that someone needs to do some generalizing to come to terms with the messages that our culture promulgates. I saw portions of one of the band's videos and it was nothing but chaotic violence. Now, I'm not saying that there is no room for the gothic element in our culture. I write some dark stuff myself, but when one's personna and the sum of one's works is violence, drugs and alienation, then something is not really right. I don't want to blame the victims here. There have been many people who have spoken of "Dimebag's" gentle nature and his musical genius. It's too late for him.
Maybe the rest of the heavy metal community needs to take a good look at themselves. One of the bands on the marquee outside the bar is named Hatebreed.
Here are some more examples:
Burning in Hell
Cessation Of Life
Full of Rage
Respiration Has Ceased
Well, you get the idea. Here are more for those who are interested.
"When you think of '90s heavy metal or hard rock, Pantera is one of these seminal bands. They are quoted today as influences by many bands," said Tom Calderone, MTV's executive vice president. "Hard rock has lost a legendary guitar player."
Dimebag's exceptional guitar playing and flair for partying endeared him to friends and fans, and the band was known for post-concert backstage parties spiked with Crown Royal whiskey, said Paul Gargano, executive editor of Metal Edge magazine.
"He was just a huge fan of rock music and heavy metal and the lifestyle," said Gargano, who considered the guitarist a good friend.
Despite Dimebag's nickname, Gargono said, "It was funny because I never saw him smoke pot all the time I knew him."
"I'm absolutely beside myself with grief. I can't for the life of me understand why someone would do this," said Ozzy Osbourne, who often toured with Pantera.
Mark Hunter, lead singer of the metal band Chimaira, said Abbott "changed the way metal music was written with his guitar playing. I don't know anybody in a band who hasn't stolen a few guitar riffs from him."
A fan posting on the band's Web site read, "This is the worst day in metal history."
Pantera's manager Kim Zide-Davis, who worked with Abbott from 1994 to 2003, called him larger than life, and said she often told the guitarist he was "a living cartoon character."
I see the point you're trying to make, but I'm not buying it. I love to play golf. If someone were to walk up behind me, while I was trying to drain a 15 footer, and bust a cap in my a*s, I would not see it as a blessing. Would I rather play golf, or die? Would I rather have sex, or die?? If someone were to kill me while having sex, my soul would be tortured forever because I was never able to blow my l**d (I hope that keeps me out of trouble).
[edit on 9-12-2004 by Dr Love]
"There's some blood on my ticket stub, so I'm going to sell it on eBay or keep it or something."
Other notices on the website - which noted that objects were already for sale on eBay - were not so heartfelt. "Personally, I want a refund," wrote one.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
You simply do not understand.
Wake up and smell the youth, old timer.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
You really shouldn't roll your eyes and tell me I don't understand. I was listening to Alice Cooper and Black Sabbeth before you were born. It is true that my tastes have drifted, but I know what I see and I know what makes the world go round. I realize that for many, if not most, it's all a joke, but these messages and images are not benign for everyone.
And I will thank you not to insult me. Your image could use a little brushing up.
[edit on 04/12/9 by GradyPhilpott]
Originally posted by Fry2
Looks like someone pissed off the elf, glad I'm not him.
I just needed to add, in full Libertarian spirit, that if all of the headbangers in the club were armed there probably would have been a much lower body count.
This is turning into a rant, but it torques me off that the death of these people at the hands of a whack-job who needed serious mental health treatment is boiled down to mind control.