NWO, Globalist and Secret Societies, The EVIDENCE

Hello all who have interest in this topic. I am looking for links. I know it may be impossible to prove that above the law secret societies run the world, but how much Evidence can we find?

Any responses to the thread will be appreciated. What I woukd like to avoid are assumptions without links. Thanks in advance for your help.

Qaddfi's last speach govtslaves.info...

The truth about how the Elite think and details of thier plan.

Agenda 21 en.m.wikipedia.org...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Past presidents had this to say
deusnexus.wordpress.com...

George Orwell, Why he wrote 1984
www.thedailybeast.com...

Mozart and freemason
www.conspirazzi.com...
www.davidicke.com...

Paul Harvey If I were the Devil, not proof but the ideology is KNOWN.
nation.foxnews.com...

Eugenics
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.dianedew.com...

Georgia Guide Stones
thegeorgiaguidestones.com...

Who are the NWO?
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

CIA mind control and NWO
www.abovetopsecret.com...
en.m.wikipedia.org...
www.zerohedge.com...

Control of Middle East
www.globalresearch.ca...
www.globalresearch.ca...

But in the end it's all about the money. Trillionaires can't hide.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.xat.org...
www.ted.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The presidents warned us
www.seek2know.net...

Secret Societies
www.abovetopsecret.com...

What the Religious Texts say.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I can't prove any of these links provide the truth.

But many of the links contain elements of the truth mixed with a bit of speculation and fantasy, but a discerning mind should be able to see all roads lead to private bankers with a Zionist agenda.

I will let the late George Carlin Explain it.

Carlin - The Real Owners Of America

"The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying ­ lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else."

"But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting (snipped) by a system that threw them overboard 30 (snipping) years ago.

"You know what they want? Obedient workers ­ people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly #tier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your (snipping) retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this (snipping) place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."

"This country is finished."
www.rense.com...

nice job
u might be on to something

a reply to: sacgamer25

It's a shame that he passed. George Carlin is one of the wisest men that ever lived. Every one if his words rings true today. He is one of the greatest prophets of our lifetimes and most people don't even realize it. If I had it my way his words would be given the same due as Jesus, Gandhi, or MLK.

When you said "evidence", I thought "great".

Then I looked at some of your sources.

The first one I looked at was titled "NWO Front for Cabalist Jewish Tyranny" and written by Henry Makow. Marlow is quite well known for his anti homosexual views, but in this context clearly dislikes Zionism which he thinks - alongside Freemasonary - is the root of all evils. Makow's website shows a "Jews are bad" slant, which says it all.

The second link I looked at was titled "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" by Victor E. Marsden. That pretty much crashed this thread for me.

No evidence, just rehashed anti-Zionist blabber.

Regards

a reply to: sacgamer25

The best source of all is to simply realize that Babylon is the error of the Guardian Cherub of Ezekiel 28. Commerce is the key to seeing Babylon for what it is. The mark of Mankind is 666, or Carbon (6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons). The fruit of knowledge is technology, or the search for the knowledge to transmute the Carbon. We can bounce back and forth between the fall in Genesis and the ultimate conclusion in Revelation, but the key is to identify the one transmuting the Earth for gain. The commerce system in question is the Petrol Dollar and the coming Carbon trading system (once the tables turn). Carbon, of course, is symbolism for trading humans. The coming world order will be a system to manipulate the masses of mankind (already happening) for the gain of private associations of men (leaders / wealthy / Daddy Warbucks). Who is the Masonic Daddy Warbucks? Track him from Rome to the Masons of the UK, through America and then back to their head--Israel.

When Jesus turned over the tables of the moneychangers and the benches of the ones selling doves, he was showing the sign of their end. Passover is the time (NIssan 17) and the coming bubble burst will represent the tables fully turned over. The peacemakers (ones selling doves) have their benches (places of rest) turned over as well. In other words, they cannot buy peace any longer after the tables of the moneychangers are turned. We also see the woe to the experts in the law (lawmakers) and the priests of the system. Here is their headquarters:



Orphans are created by Daddy Warbucks, then taken advantage of by the ones claiming to be their saviors. Check the cartoon and movie. Know who they are. They are the same Daddy that built the Experts in the Law their Supreme Court. Daddy Warbucks had the dollar sign at his heart. His eye was on the orphan created by war, just as we are missing the orphans that crossed the boarders of Mexico today. Where are they?

They reject the chief cornerstone, or the will of God. The will of God is to give and receive only. They have founded their temple on taking, interest and private associations of the few over the many. This is the exact opposite of God's government of altruism, or his will--giving and receiving.

Luke 11

45 One of the experts in Moses’ Teachings said to him, “Teacher, when you talk this way, you insult us too.”

46 Yeshua said, “How horrible it will be for you experts in Moses’ Teachings! You burden people with loads that are hard to carry. But you won’t lift a finger to carry any of these loads.

47 “How horrible it will be for you! You build the monuments for the prophets. But it was your ancestors who murdered them. 48 So you are witnesses and approve of what your ancestors did. They murdered the prophets for whom you build monuments. 49 That’s why the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles. They will murder some of those prophets and apostles and persecute others.’ 50 So the people living now will be charged with the murder of every prophet since the world was made. 51 This includes the murders from Abel to Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the temple. Yes, I can guarantee this truth: The people living today will be held responsible for this.

52 “How horrible it will be for you experts in Moses’ Teachings! You have taken away the key that unlocks knowledge. You haven’t gained entrance into knowledge yourselves, and you’ve kept out those who wanted to enter.”

53 When Yeshua left, the experts in Moses’ Teachings and the Pharisees held a terrible grudge against him. They questioned him about many things 54 and watched him closely to trap him in something he might say.

---We are all sinners. No need to condemn them without condemning ourselves as well. No boasting in Heaven.

originally posted by: paraphi
When you said "evidence", I thought "great".

Then I looked at some of your sources.

The first one I looked at was titled "NWO Front for Cabalist Jewish Tyranny" and written by Henry Makow. Marlow is quite well known for his anti homosexual views, but in this context clearly dislikes Zionism which he thinks - alongside Freemasonary - is the root of all evils. Makow's website shows a "Jews are bad" slant, which says it all.

The second link I looked at was titled "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" by Victor E. Marsden. That pretty much crashed this thread for me.

No evidence, just rehashed anti-Zionist blabber.

Regards

Both the Bible and the Quran say Babylon, the world powers are False-Jews.

Meaning that 99.99% of the Jews don't even KNOW ANYTHING, most Jews are God fearing, warm hearted and loving individuals.

The False Jews may be birthright Jewish but birthright is of no importance as is proclaimed in the NT. So God may be calling some birthright Jews False Jews in these passages.

The God fearing Jews are obviously against anyone who speaks against the Jews, and the Zionist take advantage of this through propaganda.

So calling Babylon Jewish is acceptable according to the Religious texts.

So I will continue to believe in the men who were anti-Zionism. No one except idiots are anti-Jewish. (Religious Separation is unacceptable) And although these websites and the authors can be portrayed as antisemitic, they are not anti-Jew they are against Zionism.

originally posted by: sacgamer25
Meaning that 99.99% of the Jews don't even KNOW ANYTHING, most Jews are God fearing, warm hearted and loving individuals.

You need to go and find one of your 99.99% and talk through some of these theories. Chuck in the "Protocols" and a few other daft theories (like "false Jews"), and see what happens. You'd probably get a black eye for your efforts, but what would they know?

Regards

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: sacgamer25
Meaning that 99.99% of the Jews don't even KNOW ANYTHING, most Jews are God fearing, warm hearted and loving individuals.

You need to go and find one of your 99.99% and talk through some of these theories. Chuck in the "Protocols" and a few other daft theories and see what happens. You'd probably get a black eye for your efforts, but what would they know?

Regards

Why the OT says Babylon will be False Jews who practice magic? Most Jews know that Zionism stands against Moses.

The Talmud is a rulebook for Zionism, that the Jews have been following since Christ.

So I don't think that anyone who is Jewish who knows anything about their heritage will be shocked to find out that Zionist Jews are trying to take over the world, primarily through what should be illegal banking practices.

The religious texts tell us we should expect Babylon to rise to power and it looks like they did.

originally posted by: paraphi
When you said "evidence", I thought "great".

Then I looked at some of your sources.

The first one I looked at was titled "NWO Front for Cabalist Jewish Tyranny" and written by Henry Makow. Marlow is quite well known for his anti homosexual views, but in this context clearly dislikes Zionism which he thinks - alongside Freemasonary - is the root of all evils. Makow's website shows a "Jews are bad" slant, which says it all.

The second link I looked at was titled "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" by Victor E. Marsden. That pretty much crashed this thread for me.

No evidence, just rehashed anti-Zionist blabber.

Regards

And if the PTB are zionist, what would you have us do? Not call them for what they are? Ignore them because we're afraid of being labeled antisemitic? Zionism is not judaism, judaism is not zionism. The only reason there is so many people who hate jews is because of the corrupt money hungry warmongering elite who hide behind a religion and give it a bad name for the real jews. I don't hate jews not by a long shot, but I hate the banking cabal that tarnishes their good name.

There is too many pieces emerging in micro-conspiracy-theory that support a macro conspiracy theory big objective in world government. Plus world government actually makes sense and is a natural evolution.

I think "the less people know the better" rule also makes sense and that is why it is mostly secretive whether it is a surprise birthday party or world government implementation.

Unfortunately many "conspiracy theorists" devolve into too many dots and overly fine focus and do not put together the big picture, and are thus just part of the overall confusion, which is as good as not knowing anything if they do not summarize the overall systemic "conspiracy theory".

It seems even the "conspiracy" realm is overrun by world government disinformation specialists that merely blend it into a rat's nest. But a person can pull out the pieces and see the big objective is world government, and that is not that big of a surprise that a "world" REQUIRES a "world" government. The nation-state global management model already demonstrates its inefficiency, stupidity and detrimental combined effects as unsustainable, so that is the system that will be overridden in time, by gold or guns, whatever is necessary; the nation-state model is what is "ending", not the "world", imo.

I think the Wiki page on NWO "conspiracy theory" has a pretty good outline now, and in 2008 available on the Web way-back-machine. They do better than most professional "conspiracy theorists" at assembling an overview, imo.

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: sacgamer25

It's a shame that he passed. George Carlin is one of the wisest men that ever lived. Every one if his words rings true today. He is one of the greatest prophets of our lifetimes and most people don't even realize it. If I had it my way his words would be given the same due as Jesus, Gandhi, or MLK.

Not true at all, although I am a fan of George Carlin, the fact remains, his way of thought is shared by many on ATS just generally not as funny. The major difference....podium.

What I respect of him was his courage to bring it to the forefront even though he fully participated in the "game".....if you can't beat them join them.

Truth is he is one of many who have shared his concerns and wisdom with us, so did JFK and other past presidents. If the president of the free world couldn't fight back against corporate interests and big money with all the resources of the US government, what chance do we have?

originally posted by: paraphi
When you said "evidence", I thought "great".

Then I looked at some of your sources.

No evidence, just rehashed anti-Zionist blabber.

Well than fellow "conspiracy theorist" on "Above Top Secret", care to share some of your personal research into the matter? I'd be curious to learn some of what someone as astute and longstanding in this community as you must have discovered.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

If the president of the free world couldn't fight back against corporate interests and big money with all the resources of the US government, what chance do we have?

are you saying we should just assume the fetal position suck on our toes and just give up ?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Rosinitiate

If the president of the free world couldn't fight back against corporate interests and big money with all the resources of the US government, what chance do we have?

are you saying we should just assume the fetal position suck on our toes and just give up ?

You can do whatever you want but from what I can tell, there is more death on the horizon. It doesn't change the fact that the world is populated with idiots. Now that's not to say being an idiot was by choice, in fact an argument can be made that we are manufactured idiots. We have been programmed to accept this reality because of the "Golden Rule": He who has the gold makes the rules.

You can rail against it all you want, #, I do. Pretty sure there has been countless people who have done the same throughout histories timeline and guess what, we're still idiots. Nothing you say or do will change the machinations of this reality. If you want my opinion, which you kinda asked, there is something far more nefarious than psychopaths controlling our destiny. Without getting too off-topic, I'll just say we are not the top of the food chain no matter how much we think otherwise.

a reply to: [post=18677811]Rosinitiate[/post/]

i hear ya....sadly death has pretty much all that has been on the horizon...our history is littered with war and the occasional good thing....we rape the planet and destroy our habitats and ecosystems,we are divided and fight amongst ourselves...which seemingly is all by design......if it isn't what kind of retard came up with this plan!

a reply to: sacgamer25

What you seem to insinuate is that all the data you assembled is fringe evidence of an organizational power that is secretly formalized yet publicly off the lips. The truth is that the world's wealthiest and the world's greater powers are not in a personal network together. The majority of alliances both in business and in government are widely available for the public to observe. True secret conspiracies happen mostly anonymously, away from the center stage, usually within groups of the ones without power, without intelligence, without the ability to rule what they want to take. It's a futile effort but serves to feed their (unknown to themselves) thirst for exploring the unknown.